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Author Topic:   Pence would be a worse President than Trump???
JonF
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Message 4 of 67 (869736)
01-05-2020 10:47 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Minnemooseus
01-05-2020 12:06 AM


Trump is evil and stupid and incompetent.
Pence is evil and smart and competent (at least compared to Trump).
Who would be more effective excercising evil?

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JonF
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Message 11 of 67 (869790)
01-05-2020 4:24 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Faith
01-05-2020 3:00 PM


Re: Pence and his extreme agenda
Trump loves Trump, money, and power.
He's fond of some of his immediate family.
That's all the interests in his heart.

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JonF
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Message 39 of 67 (869881)
01-07-2020 9:03 AM
Reply to: Message 32 by Faith
01-07-2020 12:25 AM


Re: Pence and his extreme agenda
Trump stands for protecting his personal interests and nothing else. That's behind every decision he makes.

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JonF
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Message 40 of 67 (869882)
01-07-2020 9:04 AM
Reply to: Message 35 by Faith
01-07-2020 5:23 AM


Re: Pence and his extreme agenda
Instead of letting a terrorist go on killing people Trump took him out. That's the only right thing to do with a terrorist of that guy's influence and it sends the right message that we don't tolerate killing our people.
And that we don't care about US ort international law.

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JonF
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Message 42 of 67 (869892)
01-07-2020 2:53 PM
Reply to: Message 41 by Faith
01-07-2020 2:07 PM


Re: Pence and his extreme agenda
The War Powers Act of 1973. Of course we are allowed to retaliate lawfully. The President may not cause significant conflict escalation without consulting Congress unless there is danger so imminent that it must be stopped immediately.
The White House is claiming imminent danger, but there are lots of problems with that.
They have not released any convincing details of any such attack. Even those who have seen the classified after-the-fact report to Congress are not convinced.
Soleimani was a top leader and planner. He wouldn't participate in an attack. If there were an imminent attack coming it was planned months ago and taking out Soleimani wouldn't stop it.
We've known about Soleimani for decades. Previous administrations refrained from targeting him because they felt it would be too provocative. He hadn't done anything new recently. Why now? Well, it's a fact that it took away a lot of talk about impeachment. Make of that what you will.
Several government officials have said he was assassinated in retaliation for Iran's recent actions. Personally, I believe them. If that's true the assassination was not targeting an imminent threat.
Assassination is against US law. But the law doesn't define assassination precisely and leaves several loopholes. We've assassinated many people since that law was passed with no consequences (for various reasons). So it would be hypocritical to punish Trump for breaking that particular law.

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JonF
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Message 45 of 67 (869900)
01-07-2020 5:20 PM
Reply to: Message 43 by Faith
01-07-2020 4:00 PM


Re: Pence and his extreme agenda
Yeah, it was retaliation. And illegal under US law. The law was written to allow such retaliation after consulting with Congress. The intent was to prevent a rogue President from starting a war on his own. The Constitution reserves starting or joining wars to Congress.
Boy, you really can't stand our laws and Constitution.
And other Presidents have acted unilaterally to a far greater degree than Trump.
When and what have they done?
(We know you couldn't name an instance to save your life. You're the queen of unsupportable declarations.}

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JonF
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Message 67 of 67 (870251)
01-15-2020 8:26 AM
Reply to: Message 55 by Faith
01-15-2020 6:37 AM


Re: Pence and his extreme agenda
Our views of Trump have nothing to do with our opinions on the American dream.
ALL his supporters know he is a worker on behalf of traditional America
That "traditional America" is a dream of the 1950's that never really existed.
Here"s a photo of the real traditional America Trump's taking us to:
And remember that the rich were taxed at 90% marginal rate. Minorities were treated like barely sentient animals. Yeah, the good ol' days.
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