The Right Side of the News

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Oh right, poor search skills. I put in "conservative" and get "Democrat." Wow what lousy search skills I have.

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I don’t know how the algorithm works or what data it takes into account but your search was quite vague (Iran is a big subject). That’s why you got the Al Jazeera story which did have Conservatives in the title And really, you could look further down the list.

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"rightists viciously harassing people?" What are you talking about? If it's true it's great propaganda for the left though, suits them quite well. Probably fake rightists too.

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I’m talking about people being hound off twitter for appearing in a movie that some on the far Right objected to (The Last Jedi) for just one example. There are many, many more.

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Reviving coal and car manufacturing is part of rebuilding the economy after the environmentalist left has sent jobs to other countries and begun the process of turning America into a third world swamp. We need both but at the moment we've needed a reprieve from the leftist assault on the economy.

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It’s the industrialists who exported jobs, because Third World countries are cheaper to operate in. To replicate those conditions you would have to turn America into a Third World country.You say that you need coal - so you want government intervention to prop us an uneconomic industry. That is precisely the sort of thing I mean. Conservatives used to oppose that - that is why British Conservatives presided over a great loss of manufacturing capacity in the ‘80s.And really, why is investigating private companies for commercial decisions a good thing? To make them do what the President wants? That IS regimentation of industry.And really do you think that turning America into a polluted hellhole is a good idea?

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Sure, definte PC as just "politeness" instead of totalitarian mind control and you've got your Marxist foot in the door.

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Funny how telling the truth is Marxist.

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If "Iran" is so vague, isn't it a bit odd that all the answers I got were Dem/liberal opinions about the current situation I was searching about? Just not the conservative views I was looking for

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Well you did if you looked further down. But you didn’t try a more specific search, did you? Replacing Iran’ with Soleimani dies far better in finding relevant results - and Democrat reactions are far less prominent.Searching on Conservative channels would probably do better shrill.

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Right, it's all worked out so that if you want a conservative opinion and MAYBE if you use some carefully chocen wording that does NOT include "cobnservative" MAYBE you'll get something somewhere near what you are looking for.

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I said nothing about wording that does not include conservative. I suggested replacing Iran with a more specific term, or searching on channels that will likely have the content you want.

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No change you'll ever admit to the truth is there?

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The truth you made up and don’t have any real evidence for?

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Most of that describes today's Left, even the Dem party, quite well

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It describes today’s Right much better. But that’s your usual m.o.

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Disdain for liberal democracy yes indeed, oh definitely yes indeed....

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Funny how Marc’s attempts to show that ended up with him revealing his own contempt for liberal democracy. And then we have the gerrymandering, voter suppression attempts and electoral fraud from the Republicans.

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... ,the parliamentary system" too, yes. The House Democrats have been making a complete mockery of American institutions including the Constitution, utterly destroyed the concept of impeachment, conducted a sham investigation for three years and then another to try to drum up something to impeach Trump for.

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And that pack of lies demonstrates plenty of contempt for Parliamentary democracy. Thanks for providing the proof.

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ou've also got antisemitism on your side, in the Muslim members of the House nobody will condemn. But also the rampant attacks on Jews going on in New York nobody will touch either because they are done by militant blacks. Oh dear we can't punish blacks, oh dear no, cuz Political Correctness tells us that can't be true. So it's denied.

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There’s plenty of anti-semitism on the Right including the Charlottesville marchers. And I don’t see much opposition to punishing the murderers in the recent cases.

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Since the fascist Left IS Communist at its root I guess "fervent anti-communism" isn't relevant, but eugenics was the reason for Planned Parenthood so even if that is denied these days it belongs at the door of the Left.

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Eugenics was generally accepted by both sides back then. But now scientific racism is more from the Right. The Bell Curve being a prominent example. And the claim about Planned Parenthood is a vile smear, but then that is your standard m.o. too.And of course the Left isn’t communist. Even the more left wing voices in the Democratic Party aren’t communists.

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Fascism is a form of totalitarianism, tyranny, denial of civil rights to opponents etc. That is today's Left.

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Of course it fits the Right better even at that level, but you leave out things like the Nationalism - which is very prominent among Trump supporters.Face it Faith. You’re the Fascist.Edited by PaulK, : No reason given.

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Marc and I don't agree on everything and I don't even know what you are referring to.

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So? What makes you think you have better evidence than he did?

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I was answering the accusation that eugenics was right wing. No it fuelded Planned Parenthood and that is left wing.

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No you weren’t - you were talking about scientific racism which these days is a predominantly right-wing view - and your lies about Planned Parenthood’s past don’t change that.

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There is nothing fascistic or totalitarian about nationalism, it's the natural attitude of human beings.

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Nationalism is a feature of fascism. (And nations aren’t natural to human beings, so nationalism can’t be either)

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I very clearly specified how today's fascism is leftist. It's leftist

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You try to pretend that fascism is on the left as part of your usual inversion of reality.

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I'm simply trying to define the way Liberal Fascism is seen by us conservatives.

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Yes, we’re getting the message. It’s all a lie to divert attention from your own fascist tendencies,

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What you say about me is true of the Left of course, that's always the case

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And there goes the usual lie. I don’t know why you keep doing it, it’s just so obvious.

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Conservatism is fundamentally for American freedoms, the Left is for forcing things on the people, stealing their money, making them use only the words they deem proper, and so on.

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Modern conservatism - at least the Trump brand is all for a corrupt dictatorship. Hence the attempts to increase the power of the Executive (as long as a Republican is in charge), and to neutralise the threat of impeachment as well as all the attempts to rig the electoral system in their favour.To be honest - with all the lying and hate and religion - I’d say that the aim of too many conservatives is the rule of the Antichrist.

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Trump has been acting within the powers given to the Executive, and trying to hold on to them while the Left has been encroaching on them. He's not expanding them, they are shrinking them

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Right now he’s proposing a massive expansion of the President’s immunity to prosecution. I don’t know how you missed that.Or how you missed him putting his personal interests ahead of the nation’s in the Ukraine.

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The text of the constitution and intent of the framers also shows a contempt for liberal democracy.

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Well I’m glad that you admit your own contempt for democracy.Though I don’t think many people want to go back to a situation where only 6% of the population can vote.

BBCWestern forces in the region have settled into a defensive mode, in fear of retaliation from Iran. The Iranian-backed Shia militias are likely to take a more anti-American stance, reducing their activity against the Sunni ISIS.

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That bee is in there for a reason. If the climate change subject was any more than a political power grab, it would have been introduced in a different way, it would be discussed in a different way, and any action to address it would be completely different than the actions (threats) that are discussed today.

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The reasons are, of course, your political bias and a fear of personal inconvenience.The scientific effort - including much serious work - is exactly how the problem should be identified and understood. It’s the objections that are more problematic.And how should a serious problem that requires global political action be discussed differently and what different actions shou,d be taken to deal with it?How would you propose to deal with the increasing CO2 in the atmosphere? How would you get agreement from China or India - or the rest of the world? How will you take account of the fact that the longer it is left the worse things will get? It is all very well to say that things should be done differently but proposing a different course of action that would actually be better is far from easy.

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Ya know what, conservatives, perhaps Republicans, are still more liberal than today's Democrats

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When Republicans are getting upset about freedom of the press, calling for political opponents to be jailed on dubious grounds and flirting with White Supremacists that’s a pretty hard case to make.

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All the Democrats spend their time doing is criticizing the opposition, pointing the finger, finding fault, giving no benefit of the doubt or having any other civilized notion

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Given the massive criticism faced by Obama - some of it outright insane - this seems hypocritical to say the least. Of course it is just your standard hypocrisy. In your civilised society you and your tribe get to say what you like but all criticism of you must be forbidden. That isn’t liberal - or civilised - at all.

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Trump has been acting within his constitutional authority at every turn, but the Democrats are either so malicious or so ignorant they accuse him of violating it.

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The courts agree that reasonable questions have been made, and certainly some have found that he did overstep the bounds.

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Probably both malicious and ignorant.

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You know, you may think it is clever to pretend that your enemies are like you but it really gets boring.

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No Republicans are upset about freedom of the press but we're all very much upset about the lack of freedom of the press, or in Mark Levin's book title, Unfreedom of the Press, which is what we have today, nothing but Leftist opinion masquerading as journalism. Huge fraud on the American people.

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I other words you are upset about the freedom of the press. You don’t like the fact that the press is reporting truths you want suppressed and that’s why you keep lying about it.

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No idea what this refers to but I'm very sure if any such calling for the jailing of leftists is going on it's not for dubious but very legitimate reasons. Unbelievable criminal behavior what the Democrats have been doing against our duly elected President for instance.

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In other words you do want them jailed on false charges to protect your corrupt leader. Who got caught. Again.

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One of the unconscionable false accusations by the Left.

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And another fact. Aside from Bannon, and all the racism Trump has a hand in you’ve got Steve King in Congress.I don’t know why you waste your time with all this lying. It’s just so transparent.

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The same way I'd have proposed to deal with the problem of slavery in 1860. Let whoever wants to volunteer to deal with it in their own lives do it, and let new technology gradually phase it out. Electricity, nuclear, and possibly wind and solar will be more economically feasible in 50 more years than fossil fuels, as fossil fuels get more scarce.

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In other words you don’t care about the outcome - you just don’t want anything to inconvenience you. If it means that too little is done, too late then you don’t care.

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Gasoline engines, new machinery technology, and civilized increased public pressure would have had slavery dropping state by state until 1900, when it would have been completely gone, and 600,000 men and a million horses and mules would have still been alive. If climate change fanatics don't slow their arrogance down, it's going to happen again.

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The civil war started because the slave states wouldn’t let go of slavery. Not because of a crusade to eliminate it.

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More urgent to have a course of action on getting increasing, unsustainable debt under control.

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Then I guess you had better vote Democrat. The Republican policy has been to increase the debt. As Trump has done.

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Of course. But one of the many advantages that gangs of posters have against one or two is to try to cover for another poster that they might feel sorry for

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I hardly think that happens much here. Every so often someone attempts to help Faith but she never accepts it.

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One of the obvious pastimes here, when it's a gang against one, is sometimes to post not so much to respond to the outnumbered one, but to post simply to amuse one's friends and helpers. We see that in gangs against Faith all the time.

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Not really. You’ll see a number of reactions when Faith posts something outrageously ignorant or bigoted but you certainly don’t see gangs making fun of her. Which would be very easy to do and very tempting given her arrogance.But I guess playing the persecution card is so much easier than admitting that you and Faith have a habit of being ridiculously wrong.

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But a drive-by reader with your worldview might read through here without knowing exactly what was going on, and it's not completely honest to make it look like you were responding to a post to you, when it was to someone else.

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It is funny how someone with a history of dishonesty would reach so far to try to accuse others of the same.