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JonF Member (Idle past 195 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
It's going to be an interesting time, as in the alleged Chinese proverb, for the next few weeks. There's a lot of claim-checking to be done. So far Parnas appears to be a reliable witness even though he's criminal scum. He's documented some of his claims, and some of his claims agree with what others have said, and nobody's caught him lying on the scandal. My God, could all or almost all of his so-far uncorroborated claims be true? If they are corroborated it'll be like Nixon's tapes to everyone except the hardest of core Trump supporters. Which is a significant portion of the American electorate.
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JonF Member (Idle past 195 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
It's not real yet. It a projection.
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JonF Member (Idle past 195 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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Googled for information about how Trump's tweet in support of the Iranian protestors, which he'd written in Farsi, was greatly "liked" in Iran, and finally found it.
The difficulty in finding it was not censorship. It was due to the report being horseshit. Twitter is blocked in Iran. Nobody in Iran liked or retweeted it. Note that your quote didn't say anything about "in Iran". Just standard right-wing deception, and you made just the erroneous assumption they wanted you to. Internet censorship in Iran - Wikipedia. Note that the leading think tank and the advisor are not identified, though there's no reason for secrecy. Edited by JonF, : No reason given. Edited by JonF, : No reason given. Edited by JonF, : No reason given. Edited by JonF, : No reason given. Edited by JonF, : No reason given. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 195 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
How do you know which of those photos is the altered one or who did it and why does it matter anyway?
Really? You think maybe someone made a sign reading "God hates {unreadable blur} ", took it to a protest, someone took a photograph, and someone altered a copy of that photograph and changed "{unreadable blur}" to "Trump"? Really? Anyhow, we know that didn't happen because people wouldn't do that under any circumstances. The one with "{unreadable blur}" is the altered one. Duh. It's not very important, but it does illustrate our times. It's changing a true historical record into a lie. Just another example of how the administration and the right wing have terrified ordinary people into doing such stupid actions for fear of disproportionate and unearned reaction. Edited by JonF, : No reason given. Edited by JonF, : No reason given. Edited by JonF, : No reason given. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 195 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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Bush1 was the originator of the term "voodoo economics" in 1980. Bush2 was a supply-sider.
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JonF Member (Idle past 195 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
OK, she has some expertise. That's one person's educated opinion,. No evidence proffered for her claims.
But it appears that Twitter is indeed available in Iran, although many sites still say it is blocked. I can't find any solid number of users in Iran. It seems to be declining; Social Media Stats Islamic Republic Of Iran | Statcounter Global Stats covers last year, and it shows 20% using Twitter in January, declining to 3.3% in December. "Percent of what?" you ask. If I don't know. The percentages for each month add to 100, so maybe percentage of social media users? But that seems stupid because social media users probably use more than one platform. https://twitter.com/hashtag/Iranians shows some supporting Trump, some against him, and many having no relevance to him. So we know that some Iranians have Twitter, some are pro-Trump, some are anti. What we're missing is how many of each, who uses Twitter in Iran (bet it is mostly the people doing well), and assessment of the significance. Pro-Soleimani messaging immediately floods Twitter following general's death in drone strike - CyberScoop points out:
quote:Counting Twitter users who espouse a particular current and controversial claim is unlikely to yield solid useful data. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 195 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
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JonF Member (Idle past 195 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
positive responses to Trump's message of support to the Iranian protestors was the biggest number ever
Yes, largest in response to a tweet in Farsi. How many were from inside Iran? Lots of people know Farsi outside Iran. 200,000 likes is a lot more than I'd expect. But assuming that's accurate and assuming they all were in Iran, it's 0.2% of the Iranian population. If the Tweeters were a random sample of the population you could derive some very probable conclusions. But it's not a random sample. The poor won't have Twitter. Taking the guy out made the world a better place. It also distracted from impeachment. Make whatever you will of those two facts. Shame Trump didn't do it legally. Yet another example of his disdain for the law.
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JonF Member (Idle past 195 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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The law requires that Trump inform the Gang of Eight of such actions unless there is a threat so imminent that there isn't time.
He's claimed an imminent threat. The multitude of different stories the6administra has told make it clear there was no imminent threat. They couldn't even brief Congress on an imminent threat. You yourself wrote "of course" the assassination was in response to protestors at our embassy. It's obvious that's true. Not an imminent threat. So, illegal.
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JonF Member (Idle past 195 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
She was referring to the assassination not Ukraine. That's a different crime.
It is hard to keep track of so many.
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JonF Member (Idle past 195 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
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quote:FWIW I don't hate Trump. I hate what he and his merry band of criminals have done. Trump's just so far out of his depth he's looking up at the Titanic. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 195 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Soleimani was killed in Baghdad where he was planning to kill more people. I thought killing him was a response to his other crimes but apparently there was more to it as he was in Baghdad with new plans in mind.
I.e. no imminent threat.
Trump had no obligation at all to inform anyone of his activities, as no President before him as ever done either.
Have you noticed that every time you deny the existence of a law you are immediately shown to be wrong? US Constitution, Article 1, section 8:
quote: PUBLIC LAW 93-148 (the "War Powers Resolution of 1973"):
quote: War Powers Resolution: Presidential Compliance:
quote:{emphasis added}. Whether or not Trump was required to notify Congress has not been tested in court, so lawyers could argue it. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 195 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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The laws are passed by Congress and signed by the President, or vetoed and overridden. There is no such thing as a bogus law. If you disapprove of a law you can sue (with some restrictions).
The War Powers Resolution is the law of the land unless and until it is repealed or invalidated in court. Deal with it. ABE The President doesn't have the Constitutional power to wage war, Congress does. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 195 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Many call that waging war. Not all of them leftists.
Whatever Congress did to Johnson is irrelevant to the assassination, Ukraine, Trump’s impeachment, or any of the many crimes he and his administration have committed. Morally, you may oppose laws you dislike. And accept any consequences.
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JonF Member (Idle past 195 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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Calling it not waging war does not make it not waging war. You are saying that Trump can take any military action he can and as long as we don't call it waging war it's OK to not involve Congress?Where does it say war must be formally declared? He could nuke Moscow and it wouldn't be war?
DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE LAW OFWAR MANUAL: quote: AbE: We on the right knew there was no danger of war, and thought it weird and even funny to see the hysterics on the Left about how it was going to bring on war. I'm glad to see that Erica Kasraie also knew there was no danger of war. Even if Iran had been stupid enough to retaliate in a way that killed Americans Trump would simply have ordered a new operation against them that would have ended it. As Kasraie said, going up against our powerful military would be a bad move.
Yeah, you and your pals have access to all the intelligence and analysis required for a definite determination. Tell the Vietnamese how stupid it would be to go up against the US. Tell the Taliban. Tell ISIS. Tell the Somali militants. Edited by JonF, : No reason given. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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