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Message 127 of 133 (870526)
01-21-2020 3:49 PM
Reply to: Message 125 by ringo
01-21-2020 10:53 AM


Re: Enemies vs Competitors
ringo writes:
Democracies tend to be unstable.
Perhaps Moscow Mitch and the Senate Republicans see Trump as stable enough for their interests which are not so much democratic as they are republican nationalist.
quote:
...After all, the chief business of the American people is business. They are profoundly concerned with producing, buying, selling, investing and prospering in the world. I am strongly of the opinion that the great majority of people will always find these are the moving impulses of our life. But it is only those who do not understand our people, who believe that our national life is entirely absorbed by material motives. We make no concealment of the fact that we want wealth, but there are many other things that we want much more. We want peace and honor, and that charity which is so strong an element of all civilization. The chief ideal of the American people is idealism.
Calvin Coolidge


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Phat
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Message 129 of 133 (870534)
01-21-2020 4:51 PM
Reply to: Message 128 by jar
01-21-2020 4:39 PM


Re: Why did the US see the expansion of Iraq as a major threat?
jar writes:
Back to competition yet again. Sheesh.
Competition is at the core of these issues.
  • Do ethnic minorities compete with ruling majorities?
  • Do Communist and Capitalist ideologies compete?
  • Does China and the US compete for global oil? Will they?
  • Does International Terrorism threaten US interests and if so, are we essentially competing? And if so, with whom? What does terrorism hope to accomplish?
    Edited by Thugpreacha, : spellcheck

    The only way I know to drive out evil from the country is by the constructive method of filling it with good.lvin Coolidge
    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
    As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.-RC Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith

    - You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.
    Anne Lamott

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    Phat
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    Message 131 of 133 (870537)
    01-21-2020 5:05 PM
    Reply to: Message 130 by jar
    01-21-2020 4:55 PM


    Re: Why did the US see the expansion of Iraq as a major threat?
    Perhaps you can offer your assessment as to what the core issues are then. Note that the conservatives supported Trump's assassination of that general.
    Perhaps it helped the competition? Or am I missing something...

    The only way I know to drive out evil from the country is by the constructive method of filling it with good.lvin Coolidge
    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
    As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.-RC Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith

    - You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.
    Anne Lamott

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    Phat
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    Message 132 of 133 (870538)
    01-21-2020 5:09 PM
    Reply to: Message 128 by jar
    01-21-2020 4:39 PM


    Re: Why did the US see the expansion of Iraq as a major threat?
    jar writes:
    We are not competing with the people of other nations!
    if we had open borders and my $18.00 an hour job got downsized to a 12.00 an hour job, and the immigration labor was willing to do it for less, I most certainly would be competing against other nations. Why do you think we fight so hard for seniority?
    Off Topic, I know. Perhaps you can help us refocus.

    The only way I know to drive out evil from the country is by the constructive method of filling it with good.lvin Coolidge
    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
    As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.-RC Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith

    - You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.
    Anne Lamott

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