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JonF
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Message 4411 of 5796 (870587)
01-22-2020 1:44 PM
Reply to: Message 4410 by Faith
01-22-2020 1:40 PM


Re: Another Trump failure
he's not stupid, he knows such a personality is not likely to hold to his promises.
He's stupid. He doesn't know that Kim is not his or our friend.
quote:
everybody can now feel much safer than the day I took office. There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea
No caveats, just a declaration of victory.
Which everyone with a clue knew was BS.
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Faith 
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Message 4412 of 5796 (870588)
01-22-2020 1:48 PM
Reply to: Message 4411 by JonF
01-22-2020 1:44 PM


Re: Another Trump failure success
Well, actually there WAS no longer a nuclear threat from North Korea even if Un goes on as usual because Trump will hold him to his promises no matter what Un does. Trump does not follow the normal patterns for these things, that's all. He's not a politician. He flatters and schmoozes the enemy and hopes for the best, but he carries a big stick.
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JonF
Member (Idle past 195 days)
Posts: 6174
Joined: 06-23-2003


Message 4413 of 5796 (870589)
01-22-2020 1:56 PM
Reply to: Message 4412 by Faith
01-22-2020 1:48 PM


Re: Another Trump failure
Trump wasn't flattering Kim {that's his family name}, he was tooting his own horn for an "accomplishment" he hadn't accomplished and likely never will.
Trump will hold him to his promises no matter what Un does
Sure he will. How? Tweeting at him? Sanctions which don't bother Kim but kill his people? Thermonuclear war? What?
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Faith 
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Message 4414 of 5796 (870590)
01-22-2020 1:59 PM
Reply to: Message 4413 by JonF
01-22-2020 1:56 PM


Re: Another Trump failure success
It WAS an accomplishment. Wait and see.

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jar
Member (Idle past 421 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
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Message 4415 of 5796 (870592)
01-22-2020 2:00 PM
Reply to: Message 4407 by Faith
01-22-2020 1:11 PM


Re: Trump's Tweet in Farsi Much "Liked" in Iran
LOL
Trump said he would target cultural sites. The man is simply beneath contempt.

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Faith 
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Message 4416 of 5796 (870593)
01-22-2020 2:01 PM
Reply to: Message 4415 by jar
01-22-2020 2:00 PM


Re: Trump's Tweet in Farsi Much "Liked" in Iran
Arsenals and other military sites masquerading as cultural, of course. That's a standard tactic of Islamicists, known very well to the Israelis. The Palestinian terrorists put arsenals in innocent people's homes. The Israelis have to warn the people to get out when they plan to attack.
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jar
Member (Idle past 421 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 4417 of 5796 (870594)
01-22-2020 2:05 PM
Reply to: Message 4416 by Faith
01-22-2020 2:01 PM


Re: Trump's Tweet in Farsi Much "Liked" in Iran
Faith writes:
Arsenals and other military sites masquerading as cultural, of course.
So, just like you make up what is in the Bible you are making up what il Donaldo said.
He said cultural sites. Hopefully once he is out of office and all the places he has a business interest have finished taking him to court the International Court will have a go at him. Justice demands it. Christian principles demand it. Humanity demands it.

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Faith 
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Message 4418 of 5796 (870596)
01-22-2020 2:09 PM
Reply to: Message 4417 by jar
01-22-2020 2:05 PM


Re: Trump's Tweet in Farsi Much "Liked" in Iran
Just the usual attack on an innocent man.

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jar
Member (Idle past 421 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 4419 of 5796 (870600)
01-22-2020 2:16 PM
Reply to: Message 4418 by Faith
01-22-2020 2:09 PM


Re: Trump's Tweet in Farsi Much "Liked" in Iran
Yet the fact remains that he said "cultural sites".

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Percy
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Message 4420 of 5796 (870601)
01-22-2020 2:21 PM
Reply to: Message 4332 by marc9000
01-18-2020 10:27 PM


Re: Sanctimonious defense of injustice by Christtianity Today
marc9000 writes:
The news media controls who the FBI, CIA and DoJ investigate now? Who knew!
They don't control who they investigate, they control how much the public will be informed about those investigations.
And what investigations would those be that the news media isn't telling us about?
Speaking of news media omissions, have you heard about the lawsuit settlement to the Covington Catholic student Nicholas Sandmann, from CNN, who made assumptions and lied about just who confronted who? It didn't seem to make the news much. I heard about it at Fox news.
When it did get a quick mention, as we can see from this link, dances were done about just what CNN did.
You've gone free association again. What has this got to do with the news media failing to report about FBI, CIA and DoJ investigations?
Anyway, of course I heard about it. CNN reported it: CNN settles lawsuit with Nick Sandmann stemming from viral video controversy | CNN Business
You just cited an opinion piece.
And you never do that?
As factual support? No, of course not. You're a good Trumpist, accusing others of what you do yourself.
What corruption did Hunter Biden commit that requires investigation? Please be specific and precise.
quote:
6. James and Hunter Biden sought to monetize off Joe Biden’s political standing.
In 2006, close to when Joe Biden assumed the chairmanship of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and launched his second presidential campaign, James and Hunter Biden purchased a hedge fund called Paradigm Global Advisors. Although neither man had a strong background in finance, James and Hunter Biden reportedly believed they could leverage Joe Biden’s political connections to their benefits.
That's just one of several.
Eight Things to Know About the Biden Family's Culture of Corruption
And there's more detail at The Biden family’s strange business history – POLITICO, a more trustworthy source. Seems like Hunter has a long history of trying to cash in on his father's name and political connections, and there's suspicion of fraud. I find that despicable, but is this the corruption you want investigated? It doesn't have anything to do with the Ukraine, and the statute of limitations has passed, so I don't see why you care.
You have a million excuses. I have a great idea for you. If you don't have facts behind what you say, don't say it.
Political discussions are about opinions,...
Apparently *your* political discussion is only about your opinions, but please don't project your lack of facts onto others. I'm relying on the testimony of Trump administration officials before the House Intelligence Committee. If you have factual information about Hunter Biden corruption related to the Ukraine then please bring it forward. But if your accusations and opinions are without factual basis then I think you should seek out facts before giving them further voice.
...your constant proclamations about a future socialist utopia aren't fact based.
I've never said anything like that. To paraphrase Trump, read the thread. Please stick to the facts, if you can find some.
--Percy

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JonF
Member (Idle past 195 days)
Posts: 6174
Joined: 06-23-2003


Message 4421 of 5796 (870602)
01-22-2020 2:36 PM
Reply to: Message 4414 by Faith
01-22-2020 1:59 PM


Re: Another Trump failure success
We waited..
We saw.
Trump failed having any effect on Kim.
BTW, how is Trump going to hold Kim to his promises, now that Kim has announced he's breaking any promise he made?

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Percy
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Posts: 22499
From: New Hampshire
Joined: 12-23-2000
Member Rating: 4.9


Message 4422 of 5796 (870604)
01-22-2020 3:31 PM
Reply to: Message 4345 by Faith
01-19-2020 11:53 AM


Re: Trump Lies Again
So now to answer this ridiculous stuff DIRECTLY with the videos from Erica Kasraie in Message 4323 and Message 4324. She says that the supposed "love" for Soleimeini was all propaganda by the government, who even required their own employees to make it look like he was loved, whereas the Iranian people in general are very very happy that Solameini was taken out and yes actually tweeting Thanks to Trump.
Why do you believe Erica Kasraie? She's an Iranian expatriate who's spent most of her time the last few years working on behalf of the Libyan National Army. There's nothing wrong with that. The point is that she hasn't spent much time in Iran any time recently.
About how well liked Soleimani was in Iran, this is from Qasem Soleimani - Wikipedia:
quote:
Soleimani was a popular national figure in Iran, considered a hero especially by supporters of Teheran's hard line politics. According to a poll conducted by the University of Maryland School of Public Policy, by October 2019 Soleimani was viewed favorably by 82% of Iranians with 59% of them very favorable toward him. He was often considered the second most powerful person in Iran, behind Ayatollah Khamenei.
And yes also "liking" his tweet in Farsi in support of the Iranian people in unprecedentedly great numbers.
This is an incomplete sentence, so I might not get your meaning quite right.
There's very little access to Twitter in Iran, so the vast majority of the likes must have come from the Iranian expatriate community which largely opposes the government. Trump's tweet received a great deal of attention because he's president of the United States. Any American president posting such a message would receive a great many likes. Why are you attaching any significance to this?
She mentions that she was taught to say "Death to America" when she was only seven.
I was taught the Pledge of Allegiance when I was five.
How many actual Iranians share that sentiment is open to question since it's forced on them by the government.
Good point.
Please listen to these videos, at least two minutes of the first one from 1:00,...
Please follow the Forum Guidelines and rule 5:
  1. Bare links with no supporting discussion should be avoided. Make the argument in your own words and use links as supporting references.
If you make a solid argument then I'll probably watch the video, but you'll also need to provide evidence of Kasraie's credibility.
...and it would be really nice if you'd actually apologize but I won't hold my breath.
Well, that's out of the blue. What would I be apologizing for - you don't specify. Are you just generally offended when people disagree with you or show you've once again trusted an unreliable source?
--Percy

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Percy
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Posts: 22499
From: New Hampshire
Joined: 12-23-2000
Member Rating: 4.9


Message 4423 of 5796 (870610)
01-22-2020 4:03 PM
Reply to: Message 4352 by Faith
01-19-2020 5:36 PM


Re: Trump's Tweet in Farsi Much "Liked" in Iran
Faith writes:
As Kasraie said, going up against our powerful military would be a bad move.
Ah, Karaie, your new hero. Young love!
Yes, it would be a bad move for Iran, but we have our own disincentives. Our military is the most powerful in the world, but it isn't invincible. It couldn't win in Vietnam, Iraq or Afghanistan. Look at Iran on a map sometime. It has nearly four times the area of Iraq and more than twice the population. In a war with Iran we *would* win, but we'd also rack up horrific losses. Remember Scud missiles from the Gulf War? Iran has much better.
--Percy

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jar
Member (Idle past 421 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 4424 of 5796 (870612)
01-22-2020 4:25 PM
Reply to: Message 4423 by Percy
01-22-2020 4:03 PM


Re: Trump's Tweet in Farsi Much "Liked" in Iran
Plus, terrorism is not limited by Nation State limitations or geography. We cannot use sanctions against terrorists or confiscate the bank accounts of terrorists or embargo terrorists or ...
Our military is designed around the limitations of Nation State conflicts but what is needed when dealing with terrorism is closer the undercover police work.

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Faith 
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Message 4425 of 5796 (870613)
01-22-2020 4:32 PM
Reply to: Message 4422 by Percy
01-22-2020 3:31 PM


Re: Trump Lies Again
There's no argument on Kasraie's video, it's just her statement of opinion about what's going on, how Soleimani was a terrorist and we must be in the twilight zone to be mourning the death of a terrorist, and that Iranians are glad he was taken out by Trump, and how Iranians have been tweeting pictures of celebrating his death and thanking Trump. She's certainly right wing and would work for right wing causes so that alone would turn you against her. I have no reason to try to persuade you to watch it seeing your post on it.
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