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Author Topic:   Biblical Support for the Pre-Tribulation Rapture
ringo
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Message 38 of 330 (754416)
03-26-2015 1:31 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by Phat
03-24-2015 10:49 AM


Phat writes:
I feel that a Rapture, if such an event ever occurs, will logically be a mid tribulation event.
I think all of human life is a tribulation, so everything is mid-tribulation.

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ringo
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Message 42 of 330 (754968)
04-02-2015 12:02 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by Phat
04-01-2015 3:43 PM


Re: Trouble With Tribbles
Phat writes:
Are you at peace with atheism?
Why wouldn't I be? If there's no enemy there can't be anything but peace.
Phat writes:
I saw an interesting video from Info Wars that showed the technology available to "chip" everyone and give them a common identity.
Wouldn't the purpose be to give everybody a unique identity?

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ringo
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Message 57 of 330 (871789)
02-12-2020 2:48 PM
Reply to: Message 55 by Faith
02-12-2020 2:38 PM


Re: The Antichrist of the Great Tribulation
Faith writes:
So much easier to give yourself to Christ now and be in the Rapture and avoid all that.
quote:
Matthew 7:13-14 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Doesn't sound like Jesus was recommending the easy way.

"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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ringo
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Message 104 of 330 (871844)
02-13-2020 12:13 PM
Reply to: Message 103 by Faith
02-13-2020 12:08 PM


Re: If Francis is The Antichrist, then the Great Tribulationi is just around the corner
Faith writes:
... if the preponderance of scripture is adding up to that interpretation, then other verses that are more ambiguous are then interpreted to support it.
That would be called confirmation bias.
Faith writes:
What else would one do?
Read it honestly.
Faith writes:
If you don't do that you will never have a whole picture at all.
But you can't start with the assumption that there is a "whole picture".

"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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ringo
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Message 127 of 330 (871885)
02-14-2020 11:10 AM
Reply to: Message 109 by Phat
02-13-2020 3:36 PM


Re: Why the Pre-Trib Rapture?
Phat writes:
A wicked and adulterous generation seeks after a sign....but signs and wonders will follow those who believe.
Interesting (unattributed) quote for you to pick. Note the context:
quote:
Matthew 12:38-40 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee. But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
The sign that He promised was Himself being buried and rising from the dead. The wicked and adulterous generation was His generation, not ours.
And remember that He also warned against false prophets.

"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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ringo
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Message 131 of 330 (871891)
02-14-2020 12:02 PM
Reply to: Message 130 by Faith
02-14-2020 11:54 AM


Re: Another List of Reasons for the Pre Trib Rapture
Faith writes:
The natural reading of Luke 21-36 is ESCAPE, not live through. "Escape" is the word used.
But you're interpreting it as "avoid". You can't escape something - fire, flood, etc. - without living through it.

"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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ringo
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Message 168 of 330 (871983)
02-17-2020 10:48 AM
Reply to: Message 164 by Faith
02-16-2020 7:08 PM


Re: The Thousand-Year Reign of Christ on Earth
Faith writes:
Sure, spiritual discernment is itself spiritually discerned....
There's that circular thinking again. Ya gotta know the answer to know the answer.

"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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ringo
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Message 173 of 330 (872010)
02-18-2020 10:38 AM
Reply to: Message 169 by Faith
02-18-2020 5:34 AM


Re: The Thousand-Year Reign of Christ on Earth
Faith writes:
No, more like "It takes one to know one."
By their fruits ye shall know them: love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance.

"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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ringo
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Message 189 of 330 (872070)
02-19-2020 2:24 PM
Reply to: Message 181 by Faith
02-19-2020 11:48 AM


Re: Daniel 9's Seventy Weeks.
Faith writes:
I already answered from John MacArthur way back there, that "this generation" is clearly to be read IN CONTEXT as referring to the generation that witnesses the things Jesus has been talking about.
Circular again. "This generation will see X" is interpreted as whatever generation sees X. "This" is superfluous.

"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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ringo
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Message 224 of 330 (872286)
02-24-2020 11:21 AM
Reply to: Message 221 by Phat
02-24-2020 3:00 AM


Re: Who Reigns With Christ in the Millennial Kingdom?
Phat writes:
...so far I see no evidence of a military police state that wants to limit the free speech of Christians.
If there is one, it will be voted in by Christians. *cough* Trump *cough*

"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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ringo
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Message 252 of 330 (872357)
02-26-2020 2:19 PM
Reply to: Message 249 by Faith
02-26-2020 1:31 PM


Re: Another look at the Antichrist of the Great Tribulation
Faith writes:
... if Francis is the Antichrist of the end times, since he's an old man it can't be far off.
By that logic, if Napoleon was the AntiChrist, we've already missed the End Times. If Donald Trump's great-great-grandson is the AntiChrist we've got a while to wait. If Mickey Mouse is the AntiChrist Disney is going to make a lot of money from it.
When you make a silly if, you get a matching silly consequence.

"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
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Message 267 of 330 (872519)
02-28-2020 10:53 AM
Reply to: Message 259 by Phat
02-28-2020 6:54 AM


Re: Another look at the Antichrist of the Great Tribulation
Phat writes:
And what of John MacArthur? Is he simply another protege of the P.T. Barnum School Of Apolojartics?
You already have a whole thread for testing the conmen apologists - and you have admitted that you have no intention of actually testing them. So why do you waste our time with such questions?

"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
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Message 268 of 330 (872520)
02-28-2020 10:58 AM
Reply to: Message 263 by Faith
02-28-2020 9:10 AM


Faith writes:
... there are always going to be what are called proximate causes, natural reasons something happens perhaps. It's still symbolism.
I saw a crow eating mushrooms off my lawn once - symbolic of the Last Supper.

"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 283 of 330 (872571)
02-28-2020 7:33 PM
Reply to: Message 270 by Phat
02-28-2020 2:08 PM


Re: Another look at the Antichrist of the Great Tribulation
Phat writes:
we all waste each others time. Don't blame me for that one.
I don't waste your time by starting topics and then refusing to discuss them. I answer almost all of your posts.

"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
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Message 313 of 330 (872792)
03-04-2020 2:28 PM
Reply to: Message 305 by Phat
03-03-2020 3:45 PM


Re: Demon Possession of Dead people.
Phat's signature writes:
The only way I know to drive out evil from the country is by the constructive method of filling it with good.Calvin Coolidge
That isn't how the exorcists do it.

"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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