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PaulK
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Message 5041 of 5796 (872272)
02-24-2020 8:51 AM
Reply to: Message 5040 by Faith
02-24-2020 8:39 AM


Re: This One's For You
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Oh I'm not going to "concede" about the fake news, I'm very aware of it all the time as are most of us on the right.
That isn’t what Percy asked you but you’ve already admitted that it’s just news that makes Trump look bad. Calling it fake news is just a lie.
quote:
It's quite obvious to us, odd that it's so overlooked by the other side.
They don’t overlook it, they just don’t want it censored as you - and Trump - do.

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Faith 
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Message 5042 of 5796 (872273)
02-24-2020 9:00 AM
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02-24-2020 8:51 AM


Re: This One's For You
So you call wanting objective neutral factual reporting "censorship" because you don't want objective neutral factual reporting, you want leftist opinion instead of news. Be happy then, that's what you're getting.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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PaulK
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Message 5043 of 5796 (872274)
02-24-2020 9:04 AM
Reply to: Message 5042 by Faith
02-24-2020 9:00 AM


Re: This One's For You
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So you call wanting objective neutral factual reporting "censorship" because you don't want objective neutral factual reporting, you want leftist opinion instead of news
No. As I said I don’t want reports censored to remove objective factual reporting just because it makes Trump look bad. Because that would be anything but neutral.

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JonF
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Message 5044 of 5796 (872276)
02-24-2020 9:32 AM
Reply to: Message 5037 by Percy
02-23-2020 8:15 PM


Re: Trump Rally Streaming
She turned the server over to the Justice Department.
Nitpicking, she did not turn over the physical server. There were several servers, some of them virtual. The FBI got certified forensic copies produced by standard methods for making sure that the copies are identical to the original.

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Percy
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Message 5045 of 5796 (872277)
02-24-2020 10:17 AM
Reply to: Message 5039 by Faith
02-24-2020 8:36 AM


Re: Trump Rally Streaming
Faith writes:
No it's not about my character it's about what i'm in a position to hear.
I don't know what this means, but it is about your character since you've declared that character assassination is okay in your book.
You made no response to your many errors that I pointed out. Is this how it is to be, that you'll just ignore when you're shown wrong while continuing to repeat your errors and mistakes?
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 5046 of 5796 (872279)
02-24-2020 10:26 AM
Reply to: Message 5040 by Faith
02-24-2020 8:39 AM


Re: This One's For You
Faith writes:
Oh I'm not going to "concede" about the fake news,...
You've never been able to support your claims about fake news. You keep claiming fake news but are never able to show it. Crying "fake news" at any news you don't like is just the lazy person's know-nothing approach. There is zero effort, research and information in your cries of fake news. You've done no work at all, merely called something a name.
But this isn't about fake news. This is about your error in claiming the mainstream news doesn't cover Trump rallies. Your claim is false. I've already shown you were wrong about the Phoenix rally, and about the India rally (you didn't qualify your claim by geographic location). You can concede your error now, else I will continue to post links to mainstream news items reporting on Trump rallies, which they do for every single one.
They say there's an inverse relationship between knowledge and certainty. You are very certain.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 5047 of 5796 (872280)
02-24-2020 10:33 AM
Reply to: Message 5044 by JonF
02-24-2020 9:32 AM


Re: Trump Rally Streaming
Are you maybe thinking of the DNC servers, which were in the cloud? Clinton's email server was at her home. From Hillary Clinton email controversy - Wikipedia:
quote:
The email account used on Clinton's BlackBerry was then hosted on a private server in the basement of her home in Chappaqua, New York, but that information was not disclosed to State Department security personnel or senior State Department personnel.
...
The email server was located in the Clintons' home in Chappaqua, New York, from January 2009 until 2013, when it was sent to a data center in New Jersey before being handed over to Platte River Networks, a Denver-based information technology firm that Clinton hired to manage her email system.
Clinton left her position at State in February of 2013, so the server was at her home during the entire period that she was Secretary of State.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 5048 of 5796 (872281)
02-24-2020 10:36 AM
Reply to: Message 5042 by Faith
02-24-2020 9:00 AM


Re: This One's For You
Faith writes:
So you call wanting objective neutral factual reporting "censorship" because you don't want objective neutral factual reporting, you want leftist opinion instead of news. Be happy then, that's what you're getting.
You already have a conservative whitewash of the news in your political commentators. We don't want actual news organizations to engage in any whitewash.
--Percy
Edited by Percy, : Clarify.

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ringo
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Message 5049 of 5796 (872284)
02-24-2020 11:11 AM
Reply to: Message 5039 by Faith
02-24-2020 8:36 AM


Re: Trump Rally Streaming
Faith writes:
... it's about what i'm in a position to hear.
Head in the sand?

"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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JonF
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Message 5050 of 5796 (872288)
02-24-2020 1:36 PM
Reply to: Message 5047 by Percy
02-24-2020 10:33 AM


Re: Trump Rally Streaming
Oh, right, that was the DNC.

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Faith 
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Message 5051 of 5796 (872289)
02-24-2020 2:00 PM
Reply to: Message 5048 by Percy
02-24-2020 10:36 AM


Re: This One's For You
The news is not talk shows and what I said, very clearly, is that I want the NEWS to be objective, neutral and factual, which is NOT talk shows. But of course you switched the topic which was that the NEWS is leftist, NOT objective, neutral and factual. Once upon a time a long time ago journalism aspired to this heady height of neutral objectivity, then changed when it got topheavy with leftists who thought their political persuasions more important than objectivity or fairness to their opponents. Read Mark Levin's "Unfreedom of the Press" some time, he investigates the history of all that.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Percy
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Message 5052 of 5796 (872297)
02-24-2020 4:41 PM
Reply to: Message 5051 by Faith
02-24-2020 2:00 PM


Re: This One's For You
Faith writes:
The news is not talk shows...
All your information comes from talk shows.
...and what I said, very clearly, is that I want the NEWS to be objective, neutral and factual, which is NOT talk shows.
Yes, we keep telling you that the conservative talk shows you listen to are not news.
But of course you switched the topic which was that the NEWS is leftist, NOT objective, neutral and factual.
I reminded you that you get all your information from conservative talk shows instead of the news.
Once upon a time a long time ago journalism aspired to this heady height of neutral objectivity, then changed when it got top heavy with leftists who thought their political persuasions more important than objectivity or fairness to their opponents.
As I pointed out, all you do is say this, never show it.
Read Mark Levin's "Unfreedom of the Press" some time, he investigates the history of all that.
Mark Levin is a conservative commentator, not a reporter. Unfreedom of the Press is full of fake news.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 5053 of 5796 (872299)
02-24-2020 6:30 PM


The Definition of Socialism Isn't Going Away
Even just when campaigning against fellow Democrats Bernie Sanders must defend his identification as a socialist, and it will become far worse should he win the nomination. He prefers the modifier "democratic," but that's a distinction without a difference for most people. A headline from today's Fox News illustrates what he will be up against: Bernie Sanders' defense of Castro's Cuba evokes socialism's brutal history | Fox News
--Percy

  
Faith 
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Message 5054 of 5796 (872303)
02-24-2020 10:11 PM
Reply to: Message 5052 by Percy
02-24-2020 4:41 PM


Re: This One's For You
All your information comes from talk shows.
That's because there is no true objective news available apart from the conservative talk shows. That's what I'm saying, there is none, it's all leftist propaganda.
Mark Levin is a conservative commentator, not a reporter. Unfreedom of the Press is full of fake news.
The book is a scholarly study of the history of journalism in America. Scholarly, factual, and chock full of sources at the back of the book. It shows how American Journalism became Leftist propaganda.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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PaulK
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Message 5055 of 5796 (872305)
02-25-2020 1:10 AM
Reply to: Message 5054 by Faith
02-24-2020 10:11 PM


Re: This One's For You
quote:
That's because there is no true objective news available apart from the conservative talk shows. That's what I'm saying, there is none, it's all leftist propaganda
In other words your idea of true objective news is so far from objective that even Fox News with it’s strong right-wing bias is classed as leftist propaganda. That says it all, really. You don’t want objective reporting and if you get it you will call it leftist propaganda.

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