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PaulK
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Message 5086 of 5796 (872409)
02-27-2020 12:17 AM
Reply to: Message 5071 by Faith
02-26-2020 6:44 PM


Re: This One's For You
quote:
I had to grow into my views, there's nothing tribal about them
Your tribalism is very, very obvious.
quote:
You don't know why I believe what I believe.
Your love of hate and lies is a big part of it.
quote:
The Left is THE evil force in the world today.
In general the source of hate and lies is more evil than the target. And there is a whole lot of evil on the Right.
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Come soon Lord, come soon. The world is getting worse every day.
Your Lord is Satan.

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PaulK
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Message 5087 of 5796 (872410)
02-27-2020 12:33 AM
Reply to: Message 5077 by Faith
02-26-2020 7:56 PM


Re: This One's For You
quote:
Trump has committed no violations of the Constitution or the law or anything else, but Hillary did, the FBI did, Joe and Hunter Biden did, others on the Left did, the Democrats of the House lled and lled and lled.
Trump definitely abused his powerM and certainly engaged in his usual obstruction of justice. the GAO ruled that he exceeded his power. There is no doubt about that. Of the others, the few violations that have been shown are minor. And you really haven’t shown that Biden broke the law.
The Democrats in the House did not lie. That was you and the Republicans. As usual you call truths you want suppressed lies - one of those nasty little habits that exposes your true allegiance.
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I realize by now that there is no point in discussing any of this.
More accurately you can’t discuss it. You lie and you lie and you lie and then complain when you aren’t believed.
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Part of that is my fault, I don't do enough research and that isn't going to improve, partly from sheer discouragement with the results though...
The results are bad for you because you oppose the truth, and obviously so. Just looking for evil lies won’t help you. We don’t love them the way you do.
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.... and the political divide is simply unbridgeable.
And that’s your tribalism right there.
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I don't see any way to fix the problem.
You are the problem, your irrationality, your tribalism, your love of slander.. I don’t see much hope of fixing that after all these years. Christianity claims to have a solution. Maybe you should try it.

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Percy
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Message 5088 of 5796 (872416)
02-27-2020 6:03 AM
Reply to: Message 5083 by Faith
02-26-2020 10:39 PM


Re: This One's For You
Faith writes:
Trump had and has no need for help in the election and the whole idea is utterly screamingly ridiculous. Biden wasn't the candidate and not even likely to be but even if he was Trump has nothing to fear from any of the Democrats anyway and the idea that he'd be looking for some kind of dirt is a foul lle. It was Hillary who paid for "dirt," totally invented dirt on Trump, and Biden himself paid to get his son out from under an investigation into corruption. It was Biden who did that but the Left always dumps its own corruptions onto Trump. Trump was asking about corruptions that involved our elections because that's his job. The rest is Leftist lies and lies and more lies.
Because your posts are just mindless boilerplate full of factual errors, one can just do word substitution to generate a reply while inserting facts that are actually true:
Trump had and has great need for help in the election and the whole idea that he doesn't is utterly screamingly ridiculous. Biden was the most likely candidate and Trump fears losing the election to the Democrats. Looking for some kind of dirt is just what he always does. It was Trump who paid off porn stars and paramours and totally invented accusations on his political opponents, such as the lie that Biden's son was under investigation in the Ukraine for corruption and that Biden paid to get him off. Biden did no such thing. The Right always dumps its own corruptions onto the Democrats. Trump was asking for help corrupting our election because that's who he his. The rest is Rightist lies and lies and more lies.
--Percy

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Theodoric
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Message 5089 of 5796 (872421)
02-27-2020 8:56 AM


Coronavirus conspiracy theories
OK lets put the conspiracy theories to rest so we can actually prepare and so that actual work can be done on a vaccine.
Facts not propaganda.
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Coronaviruses are a group of viruses that tend to cause respiratory illnesses in humans and a variety of other illnesses in animals, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention explains on its website. The name comes from the crown, or corona-like appearance of infective viruses when seen under a microscope.
One patent is for a genetic sequence of the virus that causes SARS, or severe acute respiratory syndrome, a disease that spread to dozens of countries in 2003, sickening more than 8,000 people and killing 774.
The sequencing was done at the CDC during the SARS outbreak and they were the ones that filed the patent, Matthew Frieman, a coronavirus researcher at the University of Maryland, explained in an email.
The CDC told the Associated Press in 2003 that the agency was claiming ownership to ensure access, and to prevent others from controlling the technology. In a phone interview, Columbia law professor Harold Edgar told us that following a U.S. Supreme Court case decided in 2013, U.S. patent law no longer allows for patents on viral sequences as they exist in nature.
The other supposedly related patent is for a mutated form of avian infectious bronchitis virus, or IBV, which infects poultry, but not people. The patent was filed by the Pirbright Institute, a research institute in the U.K. whose mission is to prevent and control viral diseases of livestock. The mutations were created to attenuate, or weaken, the virus, so that it could be used as a vaccine to protect chickens from the disease.
Social Media Posts Spread Bogus Coronavirus Conspiracy Theory - FactCheck.org

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

  
JonF
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Message 5090 of 5796 (872435)
02-27-2020 10:57 AM


Motto- don't be prepared
Did Trump Administration Fire the US Pandemic Response Team? | Snopes.com
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Legum outlined a series of cost-cutting decisions made by the Trump administration in preceding years that gutted the nation’s infectious disease defense infrastructure. The pandemic response team is a reference to news stories from spring 2018 reporting that White House officials tasked with directing a national response to a pandemic had been ousted.
Rear Adm. Timothy Ziemer abruptly departed from his post leading the global health security team on the National Security Council in May 2018 amid a reorganization of the council by then-National Security Advisor John Bolton. Ziemer’s team was disbanded. Tom Bossert, who as The Washington Post reported, had called for a comprehensive biodefense strategy against pandemics and biological attacks, had been fired one month prior.
It’s true that the Trump administration axed the executive branch team responsible for coordinating a response to a pandemic and did not replace it, eliminating Ziemer’s position and reassigning others, although Bolton was the executive at the top of the National Security Council chain of command at the time.
Legum stated in a follow-up tweet, Trump also cut funding for the CDC, forcing the CDC to cancel its efforts to help countries prevent infectious-disease threats from becoming epidemics in 39 of 49 countries in 2018. Among the countries abandoned? China. That was confirmed in 2018 reports saying that funding for the CDC’s global disease outbreak prevention efforts were cut by 80%, which included the agency’s efforts in China.
Edited by JonF, : No reason given.

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Chiroptera
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Message 5091 of 5796 (872446)
02-27-2020 12:07 PM
Reply to: Message 5090 by JonF
02-27-2020 10:57 AM


Re: Mottoon't be prepared
Yes, but billionaires can now keep more of their money, and that's what's important.

The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool. -- Richard Feynman

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JonF
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Message 5092 of 5796 (872454)
02-27-2020 4:15 PM


Here's the plan...
Worker threw exception | www.rawstory.com | Cloudflare
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Vice President Mike Pence has taken his first step as head of the president’s Coronavirus Task Force, and in so doing he has made crystal clear what the group’s goal actually is. Pence has added two of the administration’s top economic and finance advisors, Larry Kudlow and Steve Mnuchin, to the list of members.
The purported goal of the coronavirus task force, presumably, is to coordinate the federal government’s response to the impending pandemic in an effort to minimize transmission and protect Americans from dying.
But by adding the president’s top economic advisor and the Secretary of the Treasury, Pence has made clear the direction from President Donald Trump us exactly what news reports have already stated: Trump put Pence in charge after being furious over the stock market being in near free-fall Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday.
Trump's reputation matters. The stock market matters. People not so much.

  
JonF
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Message 5093 of 5796 (872492)
02-28-2020 6:07 AM


Let 'em freeze
Trump: We Must Pay for Pandemic Prep by Cutting Aid to Poor
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A document that the Trump administration sent to Congress, which we have seen, indicates that the administration is transferring $37 million to emergency funding for the coronavirus response from the Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program, or LIHEAP, which funds heating for poor families.
Democrats see this as provoking budgetary bickering and unnecessary political friction at a time when a clean emergency appropriation could easily avoid both.

  
Percy
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Message 5094 of 5796 (872498)
02-28-2020 8:05 AM
Reply to: Message 5030 by Faith
02-22-2020 8:23 PM


Re: This One's For You
Faith has claimed several times that the mainstream media doesn't cover Trump rallies, for instance in Message 4981:
Faith writes:
You get to see them on the videos if you can find such videos which takes some work since the main news sources don't carry reports of the rallies.
And this in Message 5030:
Faith writes:
I hardly ever see an announcement of a Trump rally, that's why I have to go looking for information if I happen to hear a mention of it on the radio.
This is untrue but Faith refuses to concede this very obvious point, so after Trump rallies, and before if possible, I've been posting links to news accounts about it. I've already done so with the Phoenix rally (after) and the India rally (before and after), and now I'm doing so again with the North Charleston, South Carolina, rally that is taking place tonight:
--Percy

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Faith 
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Message 5095 of 5796 (872500)
02-28-2020 8:15 AM
Reply to: Message 5094 by Percy
02-28-2020 8:05 AM


Re: This One's For You
You don't identify the sources, I have to go find them. And the first few seem like local sources. Isn't it clear I'm talking about the major news that hits us all in the face, not small local sources, some of which could be conservative. All I know is I had to look for information about the rallies, they aren't mainstream headlines. Mainstream headlines are always some kind of insinuation that Trump did something wrong about something or other.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Percy
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Message 5096 of 5796 (872506)
02-28-2020 8:53 AM
Reply to: Message 5095 by Faith
02-28-2020 8:15 AM


Re: This One's For You
Faith writes:
You don't identify the sources, I have to go find them.
You mean (horrors!) you actually had to click on the links? Since you're so lazy, here'a trick. Just hover over the links and the URLs will appear at the bottom of the browser window. The first part of the URL tells you source.
And the first few seem like local sources.
This is *before* the rally. There' nothing coming out of the White House about it, so of course most of the news reports are going to be local and be about things like waiting for tickets and what parking and traffic will be like. Even so, there are ABC News and Fox News articles in there.
Isn't it clear I'm talking about the major news that hits us all in the face, not small local sources, some of which could be conservative.
There usually won't be any major news *before* a rally. Were you expecting some? And since Trump says mostly the same things at every rally, there usually isn't any major news after the rally. You yourself admitted that nothing of significance happens at many rallies when you suggested a headline something like, "Happy Trump rally goers who love America are well behaved and intelligent."
All I know is I had to look for information about the rallies, they aren't mainstream headlines.
And all I know is that it took 5 seconds (all of it typing and clicking) with Google News to find those links.
Mainstream headlines are always some kind of insinuation that Trump did something wrong about something or other.
Inconsistent much? Either you're right that the mainstream media doesn't report on Trump rallies, in which case there would be no headlines to insinuate anything, or you're wrong and the mainstream media does report on Trump rallies, just not with headlines you like.
--Percy
Edited by Percy, : Typo.

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JonF
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Message 5097 of 5796 (872508)
02-28-2020 8:58 AM
Reply to: Message 5096 by Percy
02-28-2020 8:53 AM


Re: This One's For You
Of course legally rally information should not come from the White House.

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Percy
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Message 5098 of 5796 (872531)
02-28-2020 12:15 PM
Reply to: Message 5078 by Percy
02-26-2020 8:19 PM


Re: This One's For You
Well it's been two days since Faith and I had this exchange (edited for clarity):
Percy writes:
Faith writes:
There is no real news, or you have to go look for it because it isn't what the public gets every day, it's all leftist ideological propaganda, so you can't answer me with the opinions of left-wingers.
Really? Trump didn't go to India, speak at a rally, and tour the Taj Mahal? The coronavirus isn't causing a great deal of concern as it spreads worldwide? There wasn't a Democratic debate in South Carolina Tuesday night? The House didn't pass an anti-lynching bill? There wasn't a mass shooting in Milwaukee today? Weinstein wasn't found guilty? That's what's been in the news lately.
Faith responded in Message 5074:
Faith writes:
Gosh, you put some of the news in your own words and ask me to find the leftist bias in it? That's . um....words fail me. Give me some real headlines.
So in Message 5078 I gave her links to the stories and asked her to point out the leftist bias:
After two days there is no answer. Apparently Faith could find no leftist bias and is wrong again.
--Percy

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JonF
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Message 5099 of 5796 (872577)
02-28-2020 8:42 PM
Reply to: Message 5094 by Percy
02-28-2020 8:05 AM


Re: This One's For You

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PaulK
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Message 5100 of 5796 (872586)
02-29-2020 2:15 AM


Why Pence?
Apparently Trump wants Pence to take charge of the coronavirus response because of his handling of an HIV outbreak in Indiana.
So, completely unnecessary outbreaks and deaths - but he can be eventually pressured into taking some action. Not exactly a recommendation on my book, but maybe Trump thinks it is.

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