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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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Percy Member Posts: 22480 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.8 |
Just as he did last Friday night, holding a rally on the eve of a Democratic primary, Trump held a rally in Charlotte, North Carolina, last night on the eve of Super Tuesday. How do I know? The mainstream media reported it:
More proof that Faith's claim that the mainstream news media does not much report on Trump rallies is wrong. Come on, Faith, admit you were wrong. Why am I persisting in this? Because almost everything you say is wrong. People call you on it, but you either ignore it or argue interminably about it. I'm picking just one wrong thing you said (there are far too many to pursue them all or even a few given the walls you put up) and not letting it go. --Percy Edited by Percy, : Fix title to be consistent with previous posts on this subtopic. Edited by Percy, : Grammar.
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
And notice that instead of addressing the points raised Faith once again changed the thread title. She's taking lessons it seems from il Donaldo.
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
A key past example of Legislation that should serve as a tripwire or warning of Executive Power excess is the 1941 Lend Lease Act. In the coming years careful attention must be made of the actual text of what may seem very righteous and deserving legislation. The Lend Lease Act was reasonably implemented although it would allow a despot to do almost anything, take over almost any company, industry, endeavor or resource.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Uh huh, so what? I think YOU are wrong.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Four of those are not mainstream media. I don't know anything about WCNC and Politico sometimes gets things right in spite of being leftwing.
But when the fake news media DO report on something it's because they think they can use it to make Trump look bad. Probably the case with this one. As with most of those you originally listed these aren't about the rally itself either, at least not the mainstream stories, they are about how Trump held it right before the Democrat primary. As I said, reports on the rallies themselves just don't happen. There has to be a Trump-bashing angle. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Taq Member Posts: 10036 Joined: Member Rating: 5.4
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Faith writes: But when the fake news media DO report on something it's because they think they can use it to make Trump look bad. Probably the case with this one. As with most of those you originally listed these aren't about the rally itself either, at least not the mainstream stories, they are about how Trump held it right before the Democrat primary. As I said, reports on the rallies themselves just don't happen. There has to be a Trump-bashing angle. It is behavior like this that started my journey out of the church. People I had once respected when I was a child turned out to be deceptive liars, and it made me question everything they had taught me about God and Bible. If they are willing to blatantly lie about easily checked facts, then why should I trust them about more serious matters? If I felt that atheism needed a recruiter, Faith would be my first candidate.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9141 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
So pointing out a trolls behavior is trolling?
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5947 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6
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So pointing out a trolls behavior is trolling? Of course. It's SOP to blame the good guy pointing out what the evil one is doing. In my divorce, I was the honest one while she was the lying, cheating (in both senses), thieving, malicious one who broke her promises in the divorce agreement (especially regarding my access to the family photos). So whenever I bring any of that up, I am the "asshole". Go figure. Maybe an Irish saying will do:
quote: For more Irish and Scottish seanfhocail ("old sayings") see my page, Seanfhocail: Irish and Scottish Proverbs. {ABE:Cartoon someone posted on Facebook. In Heaven someone asks God what the meaning of the Universe is. God replies, "Well if I explain it, then that ruins the joke."} Edited by dwise1, : Added "It's SOP ..." for clarification. Also {ABE}
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Percy Member Posts: 22480 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.8 |
Faith writes: Uh huh, so what? I think YOU are wrong. But I proved you wrong with facts while your opinion is based on your immersion in the right wing propaganda echo chamber. Your opinion is based on nothing, as was your statement that the mainstream media doesn't much cover Trump rallies, proven wrong by links to articles in the mainstream media covering Trump rallies, six our of the last six since I began keeping track.
Four of those are not mainstream media. Which ones? Except for Breitbart aren't they all mainstream? Or are you creating your own definition of mainstream, one where it means anything left of extreme right wing. I threw in Breitbart so there was something familiar for you.
I don't know anything about WCNC... And no way to look it up, what a pity. If only there were some worldwide information resource available at everyone's fingertips. WCNC is Charlotte, North Carolina's, NBC affiliate.
...and Politico sometimes gets things right in spite of being leftwing. Your definition of accurate information needs work. The truth of something is dependent upon the degree to which it is supported by facts, not by whether it's right wing, middle of the road, or left wing. All points on the political spectrum are capable of both accuracy and error.
But when the fake news media... You still haven't been able to support your claims of fake news. Here are links to the New York Times and the Washington Post. Find a fake news article for us, won't you?
...DO report on something it's because they think they can use it to make Trump look bad. What in those headlines make Trump look bad, and independent of that, which are inaccurate, misleading or in error? Here they are again:
Come on, Faith, back up a claim for once. See if at least one time you can prove something instead of just say it.
Probably the case with this one. As with most of those you originally listed these aren't about the rally itself either, at least not the mainstream stories,... Every single article was about the rally (a couple weren't articles but just "Watch Live" links).
...they are about how Trump held it right before the Democrat primary. A few articles mentioned it in passing, including Fox News. Since Monday is right before Tuesday, that means that it is accurate reporting that Trump held his rally just before the Democratic primary, not fake news, right? Another related question: Do you think it's mere coincidence that Trump's been holding rallies just before Democratic primaries? Or is he trying to draw local news attention away from the primaries? And as far as the headlines themselves, Fox News said the same same thing as Politico and the Washington Post, that Trump attacked the Democrats.
As I said, reports on the rallies themselves just don't happen. There has to be a Trump-bashing angle. All you've mentioned is that Trump held his rally just before the Democratic primary, which is true. Fox News reported it, too. The next set of primaries is on March 10. I wonder if there will be a Trump rally on March 9. Trump currently has no rallies scheduled, but keep checking the events page at Attention Required! | Cloudflare for the latest. --Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 22480 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.8 |
Theodoric writes: So pointing out a trolls behavior is trolling? We might have a difference of opinion, but here's the definition I gave:
quote: I thought that "Crawl back into your hole you lying troll" fit that definition. --Percy
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JonF Member (Idle past 189 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Trump Calls Up Hannity, Tells People With Covid-19 To Go To Work
quote:He's actively working against our best interests.
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
But this may well be a blessing. Darwin rules! One relatively short lived pandemic can do wonders for the stay at homes.
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caffeine Member (Idle past 1045 days) Posts: 1800 From: Prague, Czech Republic Joined:
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In just over two minutes, the so-called president denied the actual death rate of Covid-19, told people who think they may have the virus to go ahead and go to work and compares the virus to the flu, even though he has been told over and over again that it is not at all like the flu Telling people to spread their germs around their workplace is extraordinarily irresponsible, but I take issue with the highlighted part of the sentence. To say this is 'not at all like the flu' is plainly and obviously wrong. It's a viral infection that causes pretty much exactly the same symptoms as the flu. It's very much like the flu. Regarding the 'actual death rate', he's not wrong. 3.4% is simply the number of reported coronavirus deaths divided by the number of confirmed cases. The actual death rate, then, has to be less than 3.4%. We don't know what it is, and Trump's not really qualified to estimate, but he only described it as a hunch based on conversations he'd had. And his 'hunch' is not at all out of line with professional opinion. He's obviously just picking the professional opinions he wants to be true. Edited by caffeine, : fixed tags
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Percy Member Posts: 22480 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.8 |
JonF writes: quote: I don't think Trump said that on the Hannity show. What he was getting at was that many people get better on their own, and that in some cases the effects are so mild that people don't know they have it and go to work. Here's a quote from Trump Fox News coronavirus interview: Trump spreads dangerous misinformation - Vox:
quote: He also made a good point that the mortality rate might be overestimated because most of the mild cases never get reported, so the statisticians never include their numbers in their calculations. If three people die out of a hundred infected that we know of, that's a very high mortality rate. But if several thousand people are actually infected then that's a mortality rate about the same as the flu. I think what Trump is actually doing in downplaying the dangers of the coronavirus are bad enough that we don't have to embellish. --Percy
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JonF Member (Idle past 189 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
I interpret that quot as telling people to go to work before they recover.
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