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Author Topic:   Biblical Support for the Pre-Tribulation Rapture
Tangle
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Message 251 of 330 (872355)
02-26-2020 1:59 PM
Reply to: Message 249 by Faith
02-26-2020 1:31 PM


Re: Another look at the Antichrist of the Great Tribulation
Faith writes:
But you are missing the point. I don't have a date in mind at all, just the fact that if Francis is the Antichrist of the end times, since he's an old man it can't be far off. There is no date involved at all. The whole thing could come together at any moment, the disappearance of Christians most likely being the first event. I'm just saying the time in which it could happen, IF Francis is the Antichrist of the Tribulation, is limited to a fairly short period of years.
So your predictions are neither ‘sharp nor objective’ and you know that you can not rely on them.

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Message 255 of 330 (872490)
02-28-2020 5:59 AM
Reply to: Message 253 by Faith
02-28-2020 4:46 AM


Re: Exactness, Precision -- to What End?
Faith writes:
I didn't say my *predictions* are sharp and objective, what I said is that the signs i observed are sharp and objective: an exact time, an exact calculation, not ambiguous like Nostradamus' supposed prophecies.
Sharp and objective observations would result in definitive conclusions. In your case they don't. Last time you had even more observations and gave us a date. Not possible this time it seems.
On top of that you're 'sharp and objective' observations are pure nonsense, simple confirmation bias. Your 666 stuff is the perfect example - utterly contrived to confirm an existing belief.
The generation of Jews in Judea when Christ was born had an exact calculation from the book of Daniel to tell them their Messiah was at the very door and yet they missed Him. Lack of faith.
There we have it. If faith is required to detect these 'sharp and objective' signs, they are - by definition, neither sharp nor objective. In fact the very opposite - totally obfuscated and very personally subjective.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona
"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Message 262 of 330 (872509)
02-28-2020 8:59 AM
Reply to: Message 258 by Faith
02-28-2020 6:44 AM


Faith writes:
The attack on the doves could be dismissed as coincidence of course
Of course it's not coincidence, it's blood biology. Crows will attack any bird that comes near its nest - always. I have a crows nest in my sycamore tree, this time of year the two breeding crows see-off sea gulls, pigeons, magpies and even squirrels all day long. There's aerial battles every few minutes here.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona
"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Message 266 of 330 (872516)
02-28-2020 10:20 AM
Reply to: Message 263 by Faith
02-28-2020 9:10 AM


Faith writes:
Oh come on. I'm sure the Popes release doves from that window from time to time and it was a SEAGULL as well as a crow that IMMEDIATELY attacked them.
Crows will attack ANYTHING that comes close to their nest - IMMEDIATELY. It's their job. Show me some unnatural behaviour and I still wouldn't be impressed but I would at least have to say it was a bit weird.
Highly symbolic it seems to me.
Absolutely natural behaviour is what it is. Seagulls do the same but extend it to people too.
It's still symbolism.
It's still bollox.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona
"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Message 302 of 330 (872754)
03-03-2020 2:17 PM
Reply to: Message 297 by Faith
03-03-2020 4:53 AM


Re: Demon Possession of Dead people.
Faith writes:
He starts with a Fox News report about a Hindu man who hadn't eaten or drunk anything for 66 years which reminded Buz of the story of a missionary to a remote tribe in New Guinea where the witch who ran things was 160 years old and similarly had not eaten or drunk anything for many years.
There are dozens of these silly frauds - particularly in India. They're all debunked. Don't you think that if any of them where actually true science would be all over it looking for a wonderful new cure for eating? The so called doctor never published any findings, never published the video of the confinement and refused permission for anyone to check the room the fraudster was kept in. Total tosh, swallowed whole without even an attempt to check anything.
Dr. Sudhir Shah and Prahlad Jani - Skeptimedia - The Skeptic's Dictionary - Skepdic.com

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona
"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Tangle
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Message 311 of 330 (872775)
03-03-2020 11:16 PM
Reply to: Message 303 by Faith
03-03-2020 3:27 PM


Re: Demon Possession of Dead people.
Faith writes:
Thing is, I know demon possession of living people is real, all this adds is the idea that dead people could be possessed.
So you believe it's real, what are we supposed to do with that information except study the delusional mind?

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona
"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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