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Diomedes
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Message 19 of 505 (853656)
05-30-2019 11:37 AM
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05-30-2019 9:54 AM


Re: Should this thread be renamed?
That sounds like a good idea. Makes sense to me.

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Diomedes
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Message 81 of 505 (854767)
06-12-2019 2:50 PM


Jon Stewart schools Congress
Not sure how many people saw this, but Jon Stewart (former host of the Daily Show) spoke before Congress regarding their inability to ratify a proper 9/11 First Responders bill to help so many of the fire fighters, police officers, EMTs, etc. that ended up with health issues as a result of the dust from the World Trade Center collapses. Video below shows his speech. Gotta admit, this was a very powerful display.
I guess the main takeaway from my perspective is Congress is always going to be partisan. But I think they all need to take a step back in times like this and just simply set aside differences and at long last, do the right thing.

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Diomedes
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Message 238 of 505 (863883)
10-02-2019 3:07 PM
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10-02-2019 2:57 PM


Re: Bernie Hospitalized
That'll put a damper on his campaign, although it is not that serious and there have been presidents with more medical issues, it raises a question again, of age.
Ageism?
Biden is under similar scrutiny for his age as well, despite being in good health.
I still recall the debate among pundits back in the 80s regarding Reagan's age while he was in office. Yet ironically, he was only 70 at his inauguration.
Bernie is already 78 and Biden is turning 77 next month. Which means if either of them won the presidency, they would be 79 and 78 respectively at inauguration. Sanders would actually be turning 80 in the first term of his presidency.
Mind you, The Trumpster would be 74 if he gets his second term.
Generally, I try not to focus on age. But even I have to admit, I can't discount thinking about it in this circumstance. I think what would help assuage people's concerns is a good running mate that is probably more youthful.

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Diomedes
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Message 429 of 505 (872778)
03-04-2020 8:43 AM
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03-02-2020 4:15 PM


Re: On to super tuesday ...
Seems Biden had a good showing on Super Tuesday. Although once the results of California come in, I think Sanders will still have the delegate lead.
With Klobuchar and Butigieg dropping out right before Super Tuesday, that seems to have cemented the more centrist votes towards Biden. But the more left leaning votes are still being shared between Warren and Sanders. My guess is Warren will likely drop out shortly considering she didn't even win her home state of Massachusetts. Actually came in third which I think pretty much torpedoes her chances at this stage. But once she is gone, that will likely consolidate the more left leaning votes under Sanders.
I'm curious how long 'Little Mike' will hang on. He's already spent $500 million of his own money at this stage. But with a net worth of around $55 billion, he has pretty deep pockets. So he can hang around for quite some time.

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Diomedes
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Message 434 of 505 (872783)
03-04-2020 10:46 AM


Bloomberg calls it quits
He just announced he is suspending his campaign. Apparently, he is endorsing Biden.
quote:
Michael Bloomberg has ended his bid for the White House after a poor showing on Super Tuesday.
"Three months ago, I entered the race for president to defeat Donald Trump. Today, I am leaving the race for the same reason," he said.
Mr Bloomberg, a former mayor of New York City, has spent more than half a billion dollars in the race to become the Democratic Party's nominee.
He said he would now support former Vice-President Joe Biden.
Michael Bloomberg ends US presidential campaign - BBC News
I guess that's one way to blow $500 million.

  
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Message 443 of 505 (872821)
03-05-2020 11:48 AM


Warren is out
quote:
Senator Elizabeth Warren will end her presidential campaign after a poor showing on Super Tuesday.
A favourite of the liberal left, the Massachusetts senator had been a frontrunner in the Democratic field.
However, Ms Warren, 70, failed to convert early excitement into votes.
The Democratic contest to take on President Donald Trump is now seen as a two-horse race between former Vice-President Joe Biden, 77, and Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders, 78.
Elizabeth Warren ends presidential bid - BBC News

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Diomedes
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Message 495 of 505 (875585)
04-29-2020 2:10 PM
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04-29-2020 1:49 PM


Re: Cuomo for President
The Democrats greatest enemy is other Democrats. There is this dog-eat-dog mentality that they've adopted. If you don't check all the little social engineering boxes that they want, they'll turn on you in a heartbeat and smear you as "Alt-Right adjacent." They have underestimated how sick to death America is of political correctness.
Even I concur with that notion. And it is something Obama himself chimed in on in regards to 'cancel culture' and the incessant predilection of focusing on identity politics. The good news is I am seeing a paradigm shift in that regard. There seems to be a genuine pushback occurring and that manifested in the Democratic primary. I had honestly assumed Elizabeth Warren would be the nominee due to the focus to get a women elected president. But her performance in the debates and the lack of enthusiam around her seemed to seal her fate. The fixation on AOC also was beyond frustrating. I am sorry, but she is basically the Sarah Palin of the Democratic party. And placing her on an undeserved pedestal did the Democrats no favors.
But it appears clearer heads are now prevailing within the Democratic party. They ended up going with the 'safe' candidate in Biden and I am seeing less and less focus on AOC or other members of 'The Squad'.
Now the $64,000 dollar question is: who is the likely VP nominee? I think Sanders supporters would like to see him selected. But having two old men is likely not going to be the tactical solution.
Looking at the candidate pool, it is difficult for me to gauge who would be best suited in the VP role. I think some may push for Kamala Harris. Maybe not a bad option, but that could energize Trump's base because anyone coming from, ahem, 'Commiefornia' might end up having too much baggage. (No offense to the Californians on this forum)
I also liked Tulsi Gabbard and I think she might have made sense as a VP option. But like you indicated, the media decided to undermine her and that may have now made it non-viable for her to enter the fray.
I guess the one name that could be floated now is Cuomo. He has become pretty popular as a result of his response to Covid-19. He seems to have a fair amount of respect and doesn't appear too much on the fringe. And based on the sentiment of many Democrats feeling he should be the person running for president, if he is chosen as a VP option, that might tip the scales in the Democrats favor come November.

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Diomedes
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Message 497 of 505 (875595)
04-30-2020 8:36 AM
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04-29-2020 3:12 PM


Re: Cuomo for President
One other consideration with regards to Biden are the recent sexual assault claims that are surfacing against him:
Evidence emerges for sex-assault allegation against Biden
This is a tenuous situation for both Biden and the Democrats. Since they took such a strong stance during the Kavanaugh hearing regarding the claims against him by Christine Blasey Ford, if they don't address the claims by Tara Reade against Biden, they risk coming across as huge hypocrites. Of course, if there is validity to the claims, then they risk losing their presidential nominee.

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