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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
I think all of human life is a tribulation, so everything is mid-tribulation.
I feel that a Rapture, if such an event ever occurs, will logically be a mid tribulation event.
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Phat writes:
Why wouldn't I be? If there's no enemy there can't be anything but peace.
Are you at peace with atheism? Phat writes:
Wouldn't the purpose be to give everybody a unique identity?
I saw an interesting video from Info Wars that showed the technology available to "chip" everyone and give them a common identity.
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes: So much easier to give yourself to Christ now and be in the Rapture and avoid all that.quote:Doesn't sound like Jesus was recommending the easy way. "I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
That would be called confirmation bias.
... if the preponderance of scripture is adding up to that interpretation, then other verses that are more ambiguous are then interpreted to support it. Faith writes:
Read it honestly.
What else would one do? Faith writes:
But you can't start with the assumption that there is a "whole picture". If you don't do that you will never have a whole picture at all."I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Phat writes:
Interesting (unattributed) quote for you to pick. Note the context:
A wicked and adulterous generation seeks after a sign....but signs and wonders will follow those who believe.quote:The sign that He promised was Himself being buried and rising from the dead. The wicked and adulterous generation was His generation, not ours. And remember that He also warned against false prophets."I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
But you're interpreting it as "avoid". You can't escape something - fire, flood, etc. - without living through it. The natural reading of Luke 21-36 is ESCAPE, not live through. "Escape" is the word used."I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
There's that circular thinking again. Ya gotta know the answer to know the answer. Sure, spiritual discernment is itself spiritually discerned...."I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
By their fruits ye shall know them: love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance. No, more like "It takes one to know one.""I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
Circular again. "This generation will see X" is interpreted as whatever generation sees X. "This" is superfluous. I already answered from John MacArthur way back there, that "this generation" is clearly to be read IN CONTEXT as referring to the generation that witnesses the things Jesus has been talking about."I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Phat writes:
If there is one, it will be voted in by Christians. *cough* Trump *cough* ...so far I see no evidence of a military police state that wants to limit the free speech of Christians."I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
By that logic, if Napoleon was the AntiChrist, we've already missed the End Times. If Donald Trump's great-great-grandson is the AntiChrist we've got a while to wait. If Mickey Mouse is the AntiChrist Disney is going to make a lot of money from it. ... if Francis is the Antichrist of the end times, since he's an old man it can't be far off. When you make a silly if, you get a matching silly consequence."I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
You already have a whole thread for testing the And what of John MacArthur? Is he simply another protege of the P.T. Barnum School Of Apolojartics?"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
I saw a crow eating mushrooms off my lawn once - symbolic of the Last Supper. ... there are always going to be what are called proximate causes, natural reasons something happens perhaps. It's still symbolism."I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
I don't waste your time by starting topics and then refusing to discuss them. I answer almost all of your posts. we all waste each others time. Don't blame me for that one."I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat's signature writes:
That isn't how the exorcists do it. The only way I know to drive out evil from the country is by the constructive method of filling it with good.Calvin Coolidge"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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