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LamarkNewAge
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Message 455 of 505 (873205)
03-11-2020 11:57 AM


Biden could start talking issues. The furst 1 on 1 debate will be unteresting.
I have really been thinking lately and I don't think I want Biden to beat Trump and it has to do with the fact that we could have 16 years of Biden and his VP ruining the Earth's climate in an irreversible destruction.
It might be best to suffer 4 more years of Trump then in 2024 we can hope for the Democratic Party getting serious about the challenges that must be taken on.
I might support Biden if he shocks us all and picks a good VP running mate, but I fear it could be Amy Klobuchar or something almost as bad.
The only ray of sunshine is the possibility that Sanders really does get Biden to discuss issues in the debate but it could be too late. CNN has Biden at 800 delegates and Sanders at 660 so perhaps there is still time to save the looming disaster.

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Message 459 of 505 (873215)
03-11-2020 1:47 PM
Reply to: Message 456 by NosyNed
03-11-2020 12:44 PM


Re: What???
Do you know that it is finally cheaper to shut down the average ON LINE coal fired power plant early TO REPLACE WITH WIND OR SOLAR powered operations. And wind is cheaper than NEW NATURAL GAS powered plants though it is more expensive than shutting down a still running gas plant.
This means that the 23.5 percent of our grids electricity that is coal based can be shut down and replaced by renewables.
Renewables are 76 percent of the new electricity generation as it is but it is painfully slow to wait for a coal plant to go off line. WE DONT HAVE THE TIME.
Biden has a 10 year plan that fiddles and farts around and which will not speed much of anything from the snails pace. The 10 year joke of a Green New Deal mutant Biden offers makes me feel like we are better off without him if it means we get serious in time for the 2024 election.

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Message 462 of 505 (873305)
03-13-2020 11:30 AM
Reply to: Message 461 by RAZD
03-11-2020 5:17 PM


Re: Update delegate counts
NBC has a 854 to 701 Biden lead with the other candidates around 125.
There are just under 4000 pledged delegates total, and 1991 is the magic majority of the race
There have been 24 state primaries and caucuses so far.
Notice how the media has been saying that Sanders should drop out and James Clyburn actually said the DNC should cancel the Sunday debate because the race is really over. He was very serious. The only chance for 1 on 1 debates should be snuffed and stomped out. Exciting for Democrats and democracy. This is the same James Clyburn that has never picked a candidate to endorse who ever went on to win a general election for the Presidency. The same James Clyburn who has stomped on the efforts to end gerrymandering when even Donna Edwards was making efforts to get rid of it all. She was in tears over blacks being marginalized by being crammed into a big 70 percent black district while the adjacent districts were diluted down to 25 percent. She felt a bunch of 35 percent black districts would benefit blacks and Democrats in numerous ways. Clyburn has been a disaster and he did not even endorse Obama in 2008. Obama only lost South Carolina 52 to 47 in 2008. It looked like a fairly liberal candidate for President came much closer than any other Democratic Party candidate since Carter won in 1976.
Clyburn has been a disaster for Democratic efforts to appeal to anybody but partisan Democratic voters.

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Message 465 of 505 (873410)
03-15-2020 2:36 PM
Reply to: Message 464 by Minnemooseus
03-14-2020 3:13 AM


Re: The Bernie movement as a religious cult
Are the over 60 people, who supported Biden 80 to 15 over Bernie, the followers or cult following types, or is it just the younger 80 to 15 Sanders supporters who are described as cult like .
I would have to notice that the media has sent a targeted message, to targetable folks, to unite against Sanders. It seems like the folks supporting Biden have more similarity to old time religious and nationalistic lock step follower types.
My problem with Biden is that he reminds me of so many Democratic nominees that say whatever they have to say to get elected with the only pseudo issue discussions coming from him being distortions that amount to little more than soundbites meant to trick the most ignorant voters into voting against his opponent.
It is not the way to earn a voter backed mandate for whatever policies he claims to want to get implemented.
I have seen dozens plus elections come and go. These wins and losses are a fleeting moment and every 2 and 4 years comes fast and leaves the previous election day on the ashheap. Biden looks like another flash in the pan and this whole 2020 election looks like a good chunk of wasted time for Americans. This is just another so so digression that will leave the country tired and disengaged and it will be a mindset that defines much of the national character. The stakes are always potentially high but it looks like the same sluggish atmosphere will be the climate and that is simply that.
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Message 470 of 505 (874364)
03-29-2020 10:48 PM
Reply to: Message 469 by RAZD
03-29-2020 10:03 PM


Re: +Re: Update delegate counts
New York has just passed 1000 deaths.
Considering the popular media is in the business of defeating Sanders with any excuse OR candidate OR ANY EXCUSE OF A CANDIDATE , and consider also the brainwashable public, then consider this over. The Democratic primary .
The real race is the general election.
Trump is possibly going to win the general election when one considers this unfathomable, to most, mess. He just looks way less slimy to most Americans than the other side and or the general political class. I think his xenophobic smell might not stink to enough voters under this crisis. The issues are all confused, and nationalism has made the infectious disease problem WORSE but Biden won't be able to care to make that case.
Democrats have to find an alternative to Biden, but Sanders is hated by the media. The people will follow the media especially when the DNC is united with the media.
This political class failure is clear to us all, generally, but the media and political class entirely will ignore the 800 pound gorilla in the room.
This means that the election will be chaos. I don't know what to expect.
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