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Faith 
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Message 5477 of 5796 (873749)
03-19-2020 9:38 AM
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03-19-2020 9:27 AM


Re: George T. Conway III on Trump
He's been hampered by many problems already in place when he took office that are now getting blamed on him

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Message 5482 of 5796 (873757)
03-19-2020 9:57 AM
Reply to: Message 5479 by JonF
03-19-2020 9:45 AM


Re: Trump Versus the Experts
And now we get the standard litany of Trump bashing.

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Message 5484 of 5796 (873761)
03-19-2020 10:16 AM
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03-19-2020 9:53 AM


Re: George T. Conway III on Trump
Gosh, 63 million fools, deplorables, probably more by now. Such contempt for your fellow Americans.

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Faith 
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Message 5487 of 5796 (873767)
03-19-2020 10:48 AM
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03-19-2020 10:38 AM


Re: It's not contempt for those fools who follow il Donaldo
"Fools" and "deplorables" is not pity, it's contempt. Actually, "pity" is just another term for contempt as you are using it.
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Message 5488 of 5796 (873768)
03-19-2020 10:55 AM
Reply to: Message 5485 by JonF
03-19-2020 10:34 AM


Re: Fox's flip-flop
Apples and oranges. They are objecting to making a political football out of the virus on the one hand, and in the other frame they are addressing the virus itself.

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Faith 
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Message 5490 of 5796 (873770)
03-19-2020 11:09 AM
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03-19-2020 11:05 AM


Re: It's not contempt for those fools who follow il Donaldo
Again, "fools" and "deplorables" are terms of contempt.

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Faith 
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Message 5497 of 5796 (873793)
03-19-2020 3:22 PM
Reply to: Message 5496 by Percy
03-19-2020 1:47 PM


Re: Trump Versus the Experts
Periodically you calm down and I clear your disallowed words list, but it doesn't take long before you're accusing your fellow participants of lying or some such again, and so I begin adding words back to your disallowed words list. I'll clear it out again, but whether it remains empty is up to you.
Since I have NO idea what I said that prompted your censorshi8p there is no way it is "up to me" since it's probably the case that I think whatever I said is not the accusation you took it to be but a perfectly reasponable response, but since there is no way to tell I have no idea what I'm supposed to avoid.
And besides, there is some pretty outrageous stuff that is said to me that for some reason doesn't get censored.
Really, I'd much rather be suspended for a while as used to be the policy. This censoring of words is extremely offensive as it interferes with ordinary communication. Words that come to mind for it are "invasive," "mind rape," "totalitarian bullying," "deprivation of freedom of speech." Just suspend me please.
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Faith 
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Message 5500 of 5796 (873815)
03-19-2020 5:35 PM
Reply to: Message 5498 by Percy
03-19-2020 5:17 PM


Re: Trump Versus the Experts
Percy writes:
Faith writes:
And now we get the standard litany of Trump bashing.
You say this as if criticism of Trump is an unjustified outgrowth of personal dislike. But criticism of Trump does not spring from dislike but from the nature of what he does, which includes lies, misrepresentations, misogyny, racism, bigotry, xenophobia, self enrichment, personal animosity and insults, a chaotic management style, antagonism toward American institutions, inability to master detail, keeping his own council on matters he knows little or nothing about, ignoring expert advice, establishing cronyism at the top of government by making loyalty the primary qualification of his administration, turning government into a daily reality show, an extreme narcissism that leaves him devoid of any empathy, and caring about no one but himself to so great an extent that it threatens the entire country.
99% of which is dislike plus ideology. You seem to be utterly unaware of the ideology you have embraced that comes from the Left. It's all false as applied to Trump. He has some personality flaws and a few are on your list but in the context of the irrational hatred and false ideology I have no interest in addressing them.
It is baffling that nearly half the country either can't recognize these qualities or doesn't care.
Well, we on the other side find the half of the country on your side equally baffling.
It is instructive that you defend Trump not by arguing from facts but by denying them while attacking those who call attention to them.
I do not recognize them as facts, they are ideological smears, utterly untrue.

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Faith 
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Message 5512 of 5796 (873878)
03-20-2020 7:16 PM
Reply to: Message 5511 by JonF
03-20-2020 7:02 PM


Re: The Administration is out of control
You said something about wanting me to come to this thread, I havce no idea why.
As for your current post, what's your point? Governers simply have that responsibility, the federal government doesnt' and if there was a conflict in one case it needs a lot more spelling out than your quote is giving it. Anything about Trump is always skewed or out of context in some way.
I've heard a number of times in the last week that some states have had laws in place limiting how much medical equipment hospitals and other medical agencies are allowed to buy. Some kind of social engineering liberal madness. These laws are causing shortages in their states at this time of need that they seem to be trying to blame on the federal government. New York is one such state out of something like 36 that passed this idiotic law.
Trump has been remarkably organized and persistent in his dealings with this crisis but you call him "out of control?"
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Faith 
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Message 5521 of 5796 (873936)
03-21-2020 2:22 PM
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03-21-2020 12:03 PM


Re: The Administration is out of control
You're asking a lot of questions and doing a lot of speculating. I don't know the answers, you don't knjow the answers.

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Faith 
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Message 5527 of 5796 (873986)
03-23-2020 6:27 AM
Reply to: Message 5526 by PaulK
03-23-2020 2:25 AM


Re: McCarthy Blacklists - a real witch-hunt
Marsha's problems with the authorities may have begun when she joined the Committee for the First Amendment - a group of liberal actors who supported the Hollywood Ten. Among those who flew to Washington were Danny Kaye, Gene Kelly and John Huston. Also there were Lauren Bacall and Humphrey Bogart, married and the biggest stars Warner Bros had.
"We were a brigade to defend those who'd been blacklisted or were under suspicion," Hunt remembers. "We were serious citizens trying to set Washington straight: we were not a bunch of Reds. We were headed by the Bogarts so we were a pretty spiffy team.
"I knew nothing about communism but I just thought that as it was a legal party other people had the right to join the darned thing if they wanted to. But it was a time of hysteria and all of us who spoke out against blacklists were punished in some way or other. There was a very strong right wing in the movie business."
"We live, we proudly insist, in a free country. By that was meant, I was sure, that you were free to your opinions and actions if they didn't break any law. The anti-Reds were fighting Americans' freedoms. I didn't know the first thing about communism - never studied it, never Marsha's problems with the authorities may have begun when she joined the Committee for the First Amendment - a group of liberal actors who supported the Hollywood Ten. Among those who flew to Washington were Danny Kaye, Gene Kelly and John Huston. Also there were Lauren Bacall and Humphrey Bogart, married and the biggest stars Warner Bros had.
"We were a brigade to defend those who'd been blacklisted or were under suspicion," Hunt remembers. "We were serious citizens trying to set Washington straight: we were not a bunch of Reds. We were headed by the Bogarts so we were a pretty spiffy team.
"I knew nothing about communism but I just thought that as it was a legal party other people had the right to join the darned thing if they wanted to. But it was a time of hysteria and all of us who spoke out against blacklists were punished in some way or other. There was a very strong right wing in the movie business."
"We live, we proudly insist, in a free country. By that was meant, I was sure, that you were free to your opinions and actions if they didn't break any law. The anti-Reds were fighting Americans' freedoms. I didn't know the first thing about communism - never studied it, never learned about it. I must have known a few communists but I didn't care - that was their business, not mine."
She's extremely naive, thinking it was just another political party anyone should have the right to join and her complete ignorance about what Communism is and self righteousness about not knowing, are probably the whole mentality that brought down the necessary effort to identify this malignant ideology in America.
Also, McCarthy couldn't blacklist anyone, right? So that would have been the doing of the studios in Hollywood.
I don't think the blacklisting should be called "the other side" as you call it, since it mostly functioned as a distraction from the whole point of the investigations. It overshadowed the real importance of investigations into Communist activity in the US. It's too bad if mismanagement of the proceedings succeeded in derailing that effort, which apparently it did. Prosecuting people who had no connection with the Communist Party or even those who had joined but naively had no idea what it's really all about, seems to have buried the real point of the whole thing, and now Communist ideas, which really are Un American, contrary to all our Constitutional freedoms, those that were invoked in this effort to destroy McCarthy's investigations, now have become powerful influences in the country. it's certainly correct that young people don't know anything about all this but the blacklisting is not the main part of what they don't know.
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Faith 
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Message 5529 of 5796 (874004)
03-23-2020 1:42 PM
Reply to: Message 5528 by PaulK
03-23-2020 1:23 PM


Bye-bye America?
I'm not arguing that we should get rid of freedoms but this is a very tricky problem where an ideology that is actually directly opposed to our form of government can get a foothold and even potentially overthrow it because of people's ignorance. This is true not only of Communism but of Islam, Nazism, White Supermacy and probably others. How should this situation be dealt with? Perhaps a massive education program? I'd be for that but the Left would kill it for Communism and Islam. Racism? Xenophobia? What then? Just accept that America was a great experiment that failed and now we're looking at totalitarian tyranny? Yeah I know the Left doesn't see it this way but they are wrong.
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Faith 
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Message 5530 of 5796 (874005)
03-23-2020 1:50 PM
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03-23-2020 1:23 PM


Re: McCarthy Blacklists - a real witch-hunt
The point of the investigations was to persecute current and former communists and their associates and anyone who stood up for them.
Then it was badly planned because this is about a dangerous ideology that most people embrace ignorantly.

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Faith 
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Message 5533 of 5796 (874010)
03-23-2020 3:19 PM
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03-23-2020 2:38 PM


Re: Bye-bye America?
Unbelievable blindness.
But completely expected.
Wonder how long before bye-bye America?

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Faith 
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Message 5535 of 5796 (874014)
03-23-2020 3:43 PM
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03-23-2020 3:39 PM


Re: Bye-bye America?
Where did I mention any solution in relation to people?
As for Islam, the religion itself advocates violence against the infidel. Just because not all Muslims follow that directive doesn't mean it isn't there if anyone decides to follow it.

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