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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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frako Member (Idle past 333 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
Did Obama Declare Swine Flu an Emergency Only After 'Millions' Were Infected? | Snopes.com
But i guess that must be fake news.Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I bet that really surprised you.
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JonF Member (Idle past 196 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
The usual right-wing lies on Obama.
Did Obama Declare Swine Flu an Emergency Only After 'Millions' Were Infected? | Snopes.com
quote:From that experience we learned about measures to minimize the spread, and are applying that knowledge now. Trump dawdled and ducked the issue for two months. Much slower than Obama. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
All I was saying was that it is STANDARD to call a pandemic by its source.
But there is no certainty about the origin of the Spanish flu except that it wasn't Spain. On this page you'll see that France, China and Britain were all considered to be its origin at one time or other. The US was also named because that's where the first case was identified on a military base in Kansas. But that doesn't make it the point of origin. Why Was It Called the 'Spanish Flu?' - HISTORY On the google page for "Where did the Spanish flu start?" you get:
More recently, experts have proposed a third hypothesis: The Spanish flu originated somewhere in northern China in late 1917 and swiftly moved to western Europe with the 140,000 Chinese laborers the French and British governments recruited to perform manual labor to free up troops for wartime duty.May 22, 2018 Somewhere I heard that many of the pandemics have originated in China with their "wet markets" where they kill all kinds of wild animals and sell them for food. Bats, monkeys, etc. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 196 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Past racism and erroneous labels excuse such today?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
That quote is what I've heard, that Obama didn't declare a national emergency until October after I think it was 10,000 had already died. Perhaps there are reasonable explanations for that but the point is that Trump did act very quickly and yet he's not credited with that.
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frako Member (Idle past 333 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
A 2018 study of tissue slides and medical reports led by evolutionary biology professor Michael Worobey found evidence against the disease originating from Kansas as those cases were milder and had fewer deaths compared to the situation in New York City in the same time period. The study did find evidence through phylogenetic analyses that the virus likely had a North American origin, though it was not conclusive. In addition, the haemagglutinin glycoproteins of the virus suggest that it was around far prior to 1918 and other studies suggest that the reassortment of the H1N1 virus likely occurred in or around 1915.[23] China had a mild flue season during that time, making it the least likely candidate. Spanish flu - WikipediaChristianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The media called it the Wu Han flu without anybody objecting. The only objection was to Trump's calling it the China flu. This is hypocrisy. And it's not racism no matter who says it. That's just the usual PC smear, trotted out for Trump but not for all the others who used the term. If in retrospect you believe it to be racism then point to all the others, but you won't of course because there's no benefit except for calling Trump a racist.
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frako Member (Idle past 333 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
Calling it the wu han virus is better then calling it the china flue, Cause if you do you get a bunch of rednecks beating up Chinese people for poisoning their corona bear with their virus.
Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.
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JonF Member (Idle past 196 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Obama acted very quickly, declaring a medical emergency months before swine flu was a pandemic. Read the Snopes ext I posted.
Trump ran from the issue for over two months, and he's still trying to avoid it. That's the opposite of acting quickly. Here it is in list form, from Trump's Statements About the Coronavirus - FactCheck.org
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frako Member (Idle past 333 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
Obama acted faster.
2009 H1N1 Pandemic Timeline | Pandemic Influenza (Flu) | CDC This is the CDC timeline, showing that The US had a handful of DETECTED cases when Obama issued an emergency. For trump to have acted as fast as Obama, the day trump braged there where only 15 cases and soon there would be none he would have to have declared an emergency. Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Trump banned travel from China somewhere around Jan 30.
Trump did think it was under control and the reason he kept emphasizing that was what he considered to be the dangerous hysteria the media were putting out. So far it still isn't a major problem in the country though we know it could eventually get there. And what he said about the seasonal rise in temperature slowing it down is still to be discovered. Trump is unfortunately not careful about what he says, often overstating things, but it is clear from your list that he was responding to the hysteria by wanting to calm things down. Now here we are most of us in quarantine just waiting. The numbers are going up but not as fast as might have been expected by some. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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frako Member (Idle past 333 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
So far it still isn't a major problem in the country though we know it could eventually get there. Yea its just New York thats running out of hospital beds, and the numbers keep rising. I don't think you get the power of exponential growth. Let me try to explain it to you with a story. Long a go A king wanted to reward the person who invented Chess, so he asked him what would you like for your reward. The man said i would like one grain for the first square, two for the second, four for the third, 8 for the fourth and so on till all 64 squares are filled. The king said ok thinking it was a meagre reward and told his mathematicians to calculate the sum. So the day went by and he asked them so how much grain do we have to give them they answered we are still calculating, ok by the end of the second day he asked them the same, the answer was we are still calculating. by the end of the weak they where finally done and had bad news for the king, They said even if we dry out all the seas and plant nothing but grain we still would not have enough grain to pay the man. Right now The rate of infection in the United states is the highest in the world. Edited by frako, : No reason given.Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Of course the rate is very high and we're just waiting to see how high it goes.
I just get tired of the kneejerk blaming of Trump when he's been doing really quite a creditable job. Obama's speech was very nice by the way but did he have to cope with a media hysteria trying to blame him for everything including the virus itself? Uh uh. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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The only creditable job Trump has done is taking false credit for what others forced his idiocy to do.
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