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JonF
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Message 5538 of 5796 (874017)
03-23-2020 3:51 PM


Can't stand expertise
Trump feels he can ignore Dr. Fauci after hearing Jared Kushner’s ‘conspiracy theories’ about coronavirus: report
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President Donald Trump’s relationship with Dr. Anthony Fauci has reportedly grown strained, and a new report from Vanity Fair’s Gabriel Sherman claims that Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner has been driving a wedge between the president and his own director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.
Two sources close to the White House tell Sherman that Trump increasingly feels that he can ignore Fauci’s opinion because Kushner has been telling him about experimental coronavirus treatments he’s been hearing about from Silicon Valley entrepreneurs.
Jared is bringing conspiracy theories to Trump about potential treatments, one Republican who has been briefed on the conversations between Trump and Kushner explains.
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Trump is like an 11-year-old boy waiting for the fairy godmother to bring him a magic pill, a former White House official tells Sherman.

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JonF
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Message 5555 of 5796 (874127)
03-25-2020 2:30 PM


The price of having a clue
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Fauci has made headlines for his willingness to challenge Trump on inaccurate statement he’s made about the outbreak, and that boldness has reportedly frustrated the President. Now, right-wing media outlets and commentators seem to be taking Trump’s cue. One headline from the right-wing outlet American Thinker referred to Fauci as a Deep-State Hillary Clinton-loving stooge.
The anti-Fauci narrative is even popping on Russian state-funded outlets like Sputnik Radio, where host Lee Stranahan recently pushed the narrative that skepticism over this entire coronavirus thing is hurting Fauci’s credibility.

  
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Message 5556 of 5796 (874135)
03-25-2020 3:59 PM


Taking a stand

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Message 5560 of 5796 (874149)
03-25-2020 7:38 PM



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JonF
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Message 5571 of 5796 (874170)
03-26-2020 9:22 AM
Reply to: Message 5558 by Faith
03-25-2020 7:21 PM


Trump's exercises in egomania aren't news. He is actively working against the experts who know what they are doing and raising false hopes. The

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JonF
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Message 5572 of 5796 (874171)
03-26-2020 9:24 AM
Reply to: Message 5561 by Faith
03-25-2020 7:43 PM


Nobody wants the country to be destroyed.
The point is that Trump doesn't give a shit about people's lives.

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JonF
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Message 5583 of 5796 (874190)
03-26-2020 12:11 PM
Reply to: Message 5579 by Faith
03-26-2020 11:53 AM


The usual right-wing lies on Obama.
Did Obama Declare Swine Flu an Emergency Only After 'Millions' Were Infected? | Snopes.com
quote:
There are several factual inaccuracies in this excerpt alone. For instance, PJ media writes that H1N1 became a pandemic in April 2009. But that’s not the case. The disease emerged in April but wasn’t declared a pandemic until June.
The excerpt also claims that Obama declared a public health emergency on what was already a pandemic in October 2009. But this is also wrong. Obama declared a national emergency, not a public health emergency, in October 2009. The Obama administration declared a public health emergency in April, months before swine flu was declared a pandemic. At the time that the Obama administration declared a public health emergency, only 20 confirmed cases (not over a million) of H1N1 existed in the United States.[...]
On April 26, the administration declared swine flu a public health emergency, allowing the shipment of roughly 12 million doses of flu-fighting medications from a federal stockpile to states in case they eventually needed them. At the time, there were 20 confirmed cases in the U.S. of people recovering easily. There was no vaccine against swine flu, but the CDC had taken the initial step necessary for producing one.
As a nation, we have prepared at all levels of government, and as individuals and communities, taking unprecedented steps to counter the emerging pandemic, Obama wrote in Saturday’s declaration.
In sum, the PJ Media article claimed that Obama waited until millions of people were infected with H1N1 before he declared an emergency. But that isn’t the case. The Obama administration started to address H1N1 just as the disease emerged in April 2009. A public health emergency was declared on April 26, 2009, when there were about 20 confirmed cases in the United States. The Obama administration renewed this declaration twice in the ensuing months before declaring a national emergency in October 2009.
From that experience we learned about measures to minimize the spread, and are applying that knowledge now.
Trump dawdled and ducked the issue for two months. Much slower than Obama.
Edited by JonF, : No reason given.

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JonF
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Message 5585 of 5796 (874192)
03-26-2020 12:16 PM
Reply to: Message 5584 by Faith
03-26-2020 12:13 PM


Re: It was the WuHan virus to everybody until Trump used it, then it was racism.
Past racism and erroneous labels excuse such today?

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JonF
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Message 5590 of 5796 (874197)
03-26-2020 12:35 PM
Reply to: Message 5586 by Faith
03-26-2020 12:21 PM


Obama acted very quickly, declaring a medical emergency months before swine flu was a pandemic. Read the Snopes ext I posted.
Trump ran from the issue for over two months, and he's still trying to avoid it. That's the opposite of acting quickly.
Here it is in list form, from Trump's Statements About the Coronavirus - FactCheck.org
quote:
Jan. 22: We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. We have it under control. It’s going to be just fine. Trump in a CNBC interview.
Jan. 30: We think we have it very well under control. We have very little problem in this country at this moment five and those people are all recuperating successfully. But we’re working very closely with China and other countries, and we think it’s going to have a very good ending for us that I can assure you. Trump in a speech in Michigan.
Feb. 10: Now, the virus that we’re talking about having to do you know, a lot of people think that goes away in April with the heat as the heat comes in. Typically, that will go away in April. We’re in great shape though. We have 12 cases 11 cases, and many of them are in good shape now. Trump at the White House. (See our item Will the New Coronavirus ‘Go Away’ in April?)
Feb. 14: There’s a theory that, in April, when it gets warm historically, that has been able to kill the virus. So we don’t know yet; we’re not sure yet. But that’s around the corner. Trump in speaking to National Border Patrol Council members.
Feb. 23: We have it very much under control in this country. Trump in speaking to reporters.
Feb. 24: The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me! Trump in a tweet.
Feb. 26: So we’re at the low level. As they get better, we take them off the list, so that we’re going to be pretty soon at only five people. And we could be at just one or two people over the next short period of time. So we’ve had very good luck. Trump at a White House briefing.
Feb. 26: And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done. Trump at a press conference.
Feb. 26: I think every aspect of our society should be prepared. I don’t think it’s going to come to that, especially with the fact that we’re going down, not up. We’re going very substantially down, not up. Trump at a press conference, when asked if U.S. schools should be preparing for a coronavirus spreading.
Feb. 27: It’s going to disappear. One day it’s like a miracle it will disappear. Trump at a White House meeting with African American leaders.
Feb. 29: And I’ve gotten to know these professionals. They’re incredible. And everything is under control. I mean, they’re very, very cool. They’ve done it, and they’ve done it well. Everything is really under control. Trump in a speech at the CPAC conference outside Washington, D.C.
March 4: [W]e have a very small number of people in this country [infected]. We have a big country. The biggest impact we had was when we took the 40-plus people [from a cruise ship]. We brought them back. We immediately quarantined them. But you add that to the numbers. But if you don’t add that to the numbers, we’re talking about very small numbers in the United States. Trump at a White House meeting with airline CEOs.
March 4: Well, I think the 3.4% is really a false number. Trump in an interview on Fox News, referring to the percentage of diagnosed COVID-19 patients worldwide who had died, as reported by the World Health Organization. (See our item Trump and the Coronavirus Death Rate.)
March 7: No, I’m not concerned at all. No, we’ve done a great job with it. Trump, when asked by reporters if he was concerned about the arrival of the coronavirus in the Washington, D.C., area.
March 9: So last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that! Trump in a tweet.
March 10: And we’re prepared, and we’re doing a great job with it. And it will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away. Trump after meeting with Republican senators.
A day later, on March 11, the WHO declared the global outbreak a pandemic.

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JonF
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Message 5596 of 5796 (874204)
03-26-2020 1:05 PM
Reply to: Message 5592 by Faith
03-26-2020 12:44 PM


Trump's China travel ban had little to no effect, and his European travel ban is downright moronic. . The disease was already in the US and, we now know, probably was spreading by community contact. He did nothing to help the health care system for months, and still has done little.
Trump did think it was under control and the reason he kept emphasizing that was what he considered to be the dangerous hysteria the media were putting out.
And all his experts told him otherwise. He prefers his fantasies.
It's clear from my list that he was lying through his teeth.
Hey, do you now acknowledge that Obama took meaningful action on H1N1 much faster than Trump did for coronavirus?

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JonF
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Message 5601 of 5796 (874210)
03-26-2020 4:51 PM


No leadership at all
Trump administration’s lack of experience has left the VA and other departments getting updates from cable news
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The New York Times reported Thursday that one of the greatest obstacles for President Donald Trump in responding to the coronavirus crisis has been that he is missing so many crucial staff in key positions.
There are a total of 75 senior positions in the Department of Homeland Security, 20 are either vacant or filled by acting officials, including acting Secretary Chad Wolf. He was the most recent Trump official who struggled under questioning by the U.S. Senate about how many respirators and protective masks were available from the federal government.
When people breached the 6-foot distance requirement to see the cherry blossoms at the Washington, D.C. Tidal Basin, there was no director at the capital region’s National Park Service. The department is like many agencies, full of vacancies.
Workers at the Department of Veterans Affairs don’t have any experience in disaster response. They failed to prepare for the overwhelming number of cases they would face at VA hospitals. They’re desperately trying to buy medical supplies on Amazon. Senior officials said they have no idea whether they should continue to refuse care and send veterans back into the community for healthcare. They explained that they only learn about updates the news media about what they’re supposed to do.
Plus there's no central control because Trump fired 'em all.
Heckuva job, Trumpie!

  
JonF
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Message 5603 of 5796 (874248)
03-27-2020 4:18 PM


Trump chaos
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President Donald Trump on Friday morning fired off several angry tweets about General Motors and Ford in which he seemed to demand that they start mass producing ventilators to combat the coronavirus pandemic.
The Daily Beast reports, however, that Trump’s tweets caused mass confusion within his own administration, as officials scrambled to determine whether he was actually invoking the Defense Production Act to ramp up supplies of desperately needed medical equipment, or if he was just spouting off.
Three senior Trump administration officials who have worked on these matters each independently told The Daily Beast that they were befuddled by the Friday tweets, and did not know what the president’s posts actually meant, the publication reports. Each official said that they were, at the time, still trying to get clarity from Trump or other senior officials on what, if anything, new had just been decreed.[/quote] It seems his tweets don't mean any changes in the policy of letting the free market handle the equipment shortages.
Trump’s actively impeding the response to the pandemic.

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JonF
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Message 5607 of 5796 (874265)
03-27-2020 9:14 PM


Brownnosing required

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JonF
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Message 5610 of 5796 (874278)
03-28-2020 9:38 AM


Actively working against solving the problem
Health officials rebelling against Trump for pulling them off COVID-19 research to go on ‘wild goose chases’: report
quote:
At issue is a demand from the White House to to track if the antimalarial drugs chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine show promise a dayslong effort that distracted from urgent tasks like trials of other medicines thought to have more potential against the virus, the report notes.
According to Politico, The White House has pulled multiple health agencies including the Food and Drug Administration, the National Institutes of Health and the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services into a project to develop a database tracking the drugs’ use against the coronavirus, despite scant evidence that they are effective.
One official specifically cited a White House request to see how to reimburse doctors for prescribing chloroquine to patients searching for a coronavirus treatment, criticizing the plan by stating, They’re basically creating a perverse incentive for physicians to use an unapproved therapy.

  
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Message 5612 of 5796 (874280)
03-28-2020 10:22 AM
Reply to: Message 5611 by Faith
03-28-2020 9:53 AM


Re: Disappointment in Trump from the Right Side
No, Trump is actively interfering with solving our pro problems. He listens only to the voices in his head.
Edited by JonF, : No reason given.

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