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JonF
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Message 5596 of 5639 (874204)
03-26-2020 1:05 PM
Reply to: Message 5592 by Faith
03-26-2020 12:44 PM


Trump's China travel ban had little to no effect, and his European travel ban is downright moronic. . The disease was already in the US and, we now know, probably was spreading by community contact. He did nothing to help the health care system for months, and still has done little.

Trump did think it was under control and the reason he kept emphasizing that was what he considered to be the dangerous hysteria the media were putting out.

And all his experts told him otherwise. He prefers his fantasies.

It's clear from my list that he was lying through his teeth.

Hey, do you now acknowledge that Obama took meaningful action on H1N1 much faster than Trump did for coronavirus?


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Message 5597 of 5639 (874205)
03-26-2020 1:10 PM
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03-26-2020 1:00 PM


Of course the rate of growth is very large and we're just waiting to see how high it goes.

Well all the way to 350 million, and if you do nothing it will take weeks to get there. You are Doubling the number of infected every 3 days. i think you need about 30 doubles to get to 350 million. And your half way there.

Yea trump still wants you to fill the churches on Ester and he might get his wish but it will be with coffins.


Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand

What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.


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Faith
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Message 5598 of 5639 (874206)
03-26-2020 1:45 PM
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03-26-2020 1:10 PM


Oh don't be ridiculous. It all depends on the situation with the virus when we will be free to go to church or anywhere else and nobody has said otherwise. Trump HOPES we can leave our confinement by Easter, and so do I.

\However, your numbers are artificial. There is no way to know at this point. We are also tallying people recovering and there are really only a very few hot spots that will probably have to remain in quarantine longer than other areas. Nobody knows where this is going to go in the next few weeks.

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.


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Message 5599 of 5639 (874207)
03-26-2020 1:57 PM
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03-26-2020 1:45 PM


Where are you on the new republican mantra, the elderly would gladly die for the US economy. Cause that's the way things will go if trump sees any more decline in the US economy. He is already spouting that the cure cant be worse then the virus.

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand

What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.


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frako
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Message 5600 of 5639 (874209)
03-26-2020 4:50 PM


The USA is nr. 1.


Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand

What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.


  
JonF
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Message 5601 of 5639 (874210)
03-26-2020 4:51 PM


No leadership at all
Trump administration’s lack of experience has left the VA and other departments getting updates from cable news

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The New York Times reported Thursday that one of the greatest obstacles for President Donald Trump in responding to the coronavirus crisis has been that he is missing so many crucial staff in key positions.

There are a total of 75 senior positions in the Department of Homeland Security, 20 are either vacant or filled by “acting” officials, including acting Secretary Chad Wolf. He was the most recent Trump official who struggled under questioning by the U.S. Senate about how many respirators and protective masks were available from the federal government.

When people breached the 6-foot distance requirement to see the cherry blossoms at the Washington, D.C. Tidal Basin, there was no director at the capital region’s National Park Service. The department is like many agencies, full of vacancies.

Workers at the Department of Veterans Affairs don’t have any experience in disaster response. They failed to prepare for the overwhelming number of cases they would face at VA hospitals. They’re desperately trying to buy medical supplies on Amazon. Senior officials said they have no idea whether they should continue to refuse care and send veterans back into the community for healthcare. They explained that they only learn about updates the news media about what they’re supposed to do.



Plus there's no central control because Trump fired 'em all.

Heckuva job, Trumpie!


  
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Message 5602 of 5639 (874211)
03-26-2020 4:52 PM
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03-26-2020 1:57 PM


Not to worry
The sane non-Repulsivecans are smart enough to stay home and not let the stupidos back in the house once they go out. Let the young and immortal ignore all reason and reality and eventually they will all be dead or immune and those of us who ignored the Orange Menace can all combya.

Edited by jar, : spallin


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JonF
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Message 5603 of 5639 (874248)
03-27-2020 4:18 PM


Trump chaos
Trump sparked ‘mass confusion’ in his own administration with chaotic orders on ventilators: report

President Donald Trump on Friday morning fired off several angry tweets about General Motors and Ford in which he seemed to demand that they start mass producing ventilators to combat the coronavirus pandemic.

The Daily Beast reports, however, that Trump’s tweets caused “mass confusion” within his own administration, as officials scrambled to determine whether he was actually invoking the Defense Production Act to ramp up supplies of desperately needed medical equipment, or if he was just spouting off.

“Three senior Trump administration officials who have worked on these matters each independently told The Daily Beast that they were befuddled by the Friday tweets, and did not know what the president’s posts actually meant,” the publication reports. “Each official said that they were, at the time, still trying to get clarity from Trump or other senior officials on what, if anything, new had just been decreed.”[/quote]
It seems his tweets don't mean any changes in the policy of letting the free market handle the equipment shortages.

Trump’s actively impeding the response to the pandemic.


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Message 5604 of 5639 (874253)
03-27-2020 4:28 PM
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03-27-2020 4:18 PM


Re: Trump chaos
and of course GM had previously sold one of the plants that trump ordered them to re-open.

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Percy
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Message 5605 of 5639 (874261)
03-27-2020 6:31 PM
Reply to: Message 5575 by Faith
03-26-2020 11:42 AM


Re: It was the WuHan virus to everybody until Trump used it, then it was racism.
Faith writes:

Democrats, media, all the same thing really.

What you mean is that you lump together everyone and everything you disagree with.

The video is edited to make it impossible to get exactly what he is saying so they can claim he was downplaying the virus itself. No he was objecting to the usual political attacks on him.

If it's "impossible to get exactly what he is saying" then how was I able to explain everything he said? You know, all the stuff in my message that you're ignoring.

And why is everybody suddenly upset about calling it the Wuhan or China virus when that is what EVERYBODY was calling it when it was first identified.

I don't recall anyone calling it the Wuhan virus or the China virus, though my recollection of news articles from January or February has faded. Perhaps your rightwing talk shows were calling it that. Remember, you don't read the news - you think it's all fake.

What I do recall is news articles describing a novel and particularly virulent coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan, China.

Horrific hypocrisy here.

Well, yes, and fabrication too. When are you going to stop? You're just like your hero: invent an accusation, then falsely issue condemnations.

It came from China, other pandemics have also been called by their source.

I see the falsehoods are just going to continue to mount. Care to tell us what other pandemics those were? There was the 2009-10 swine flu. Before that there was the 1918 Spanish Flu, called that because that's where it first received significant press attention, not because it originated there.

It was China's attempt to cover it up that allowed it to spread so far so fast and some are saying they should be made to pay for it, a trillion or so to the WHO.

China should be condemned for any actions they took or failed to take that left the world less time to prepare. There's no way to punish countries who withhold information about an impending crisis.

Aren't you tired of the Trump flip-flops? He's just trying to dominate the news cycle. One week he's calling it the China virus, the next he's announcing new cooperation with China: Trump and Xi Pledge to Cooperate to Fight Coronavirus After Phone Call

Of course they won't but it should be made clear that it is their responsibility and that they owe it. Either their creepy "wet markets" were its source or their creepy bio warfare lab was its source, but its source was China and its spread was due to their politically motivated negligence.

You've been listening to rightwing conspiracy programming again.

There is no evidence it was engineered (COVID-19 coronavirus epidemic has a natural origin). One origin possibility is bats, another is an asian armadillo-like creature, another is wholly human. While the first known occurrence was Wuhan, China, and that region is certainly a possibility, the actual geographic origin has not yet been established with any certainty and may never be.

Calling it the China virus is just Trump playing his same old blame game. We see it over and over again. That's his MO, invent an accusation and give it a name. There's never any substance. Why do you keep falling for playground level stuff appropriate for 8-year olds?

You have once again managed to get through an entire post without saying anything true.

--Percy


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Message 5606 of 5639 (874263)
03-27-2020 6:34 PM
Reply to: Message 5576 by Faith
03-26-2020 11:44 AM


Faith writes:

It's partisan / politically motivated censorship.

So "Is too!" is all you can say? You have no defense for all the Trump lies and misrepresentations?

--Percy


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Message 5607 of 5639 (874265)
03-27-2020 9:14 PM


Brownnosing required

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Message 5608 of 5639 (874266)
03-27-2020 9:50 PM
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03-27-2020 9:14 PM


Re: Brownnosing required
cause it's right in the constitution that the president doesn't have do his job until his ass is sufficiently kissed.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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jar
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Message 5609 of 5639 (874272)
03-28-2020 7:52 AM
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03-27-2020 9:14 PM


Re: Brownnosing required
There was this little kid at Kornerstone Kindergarten who was just like il Donaldo. He would take all the sleeping blankets and only give one to the people he liked. When he was told he couldn't be like that he just sat on all of the blankets.

It's time il Donaldo has to stand in the corner.


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JonF
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Message 5610 of 5639 (874278)
03-28-2020 9:38 AM


Actively working against solving the problem
Health officials rebelling against Trump for pulling them off COVID-19 research to go on ‘wild goose chases’: report

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At issue is a demand from the White House to “to track if the antimalarial drugs chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine show promise — a dayslong effort that distracted from urgent tasks like trials of other medicines thought to have more potential against the virus,” the report notes.

According to Politico, “The White House has pulled multiple health agencies — including the Food and Drug Administration, the National Institutes of Health and the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services — into a project to develop a database tracking the drugs’ use against the coronavirus, despite scant evidence that they are effective.”

One official specifically cited a White House request to see “how to reimburse doctors for prescribing chloroquine to patients searching for a coronavirus treatment,” criticizing the plan by stating, “They’re basically creating a perverse incentive for physicians to use an unapproved therapy.”



  
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