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JonF
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Message 5678 of 5796 (874713)
04-08-2020 2:14 PM
Reply to: Message 5677 by dwise1
04-08-2020 1:55 PM


Re: John Oliver on OAN misinformation idiocy
You missed OAN (One America News), for those who think Fox is wildly liberal. Trump loves them, and they have White House Press credentials. Their representative was kicked out by the other reporters for refusing to comply with social distancing. The White House invited her back. She's a serious contender for the nose-farthest-up-Trump's-ass award.
Mr. President, do you consider the term ‘Chinese food’ to be racist because it is food that originated from China?

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JonF
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Message 5681 of 5796 (874717)
04-08-2020 2:27 PM
Reply to: Message 5680 by Faith
04-08-2020 2:23 PM


Re: John Oliver on OAN misinformation idiocy
Way too much reality for you, amirite?
Hey, apropos of nothing in particular, was everybody saying the same things Trump was saying about coronavirus back in January or February?

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JonF
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Message 5692 of 5796 (874733)
04-08-2020 3:37 PM
Reply to: Message 5683 by Faith
04-08-2020 2:28 PM


Re: His fault
He hasn't been listening to his advisers that have a clue.
The two month delay in serious reaction is 100% Trump. But you can't address that because there's no way of wiggling out of it. We've posted his statements, his damning words. We've posted articles that prove he wasn't and isn't listening to any experts or taking any responsibility for anything at all.
It's a nationwide catastrophe. It's the Federal government's role to lead and support. There's no leadership. The only support is for companies price-gouging critical equipment and supplies. Don't forget that Trump destroyed the group that should have prepared for and managed the crisis. Don't forget that he canceled the maintenance contract for the stockpiled ventilators, and many of the ventilators shipped out don't work.

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JonF
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Message 5693 of 5796 (874734)
04-08-2020 3:40 PM
Reply to: Message 5686 by PaulK
04-08-2020 2:47 PM


Re: John Oliver on OAN misinformation idiocy
NYT reports 40,000 people have flown directly from China to the US since the "ban".

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JonF
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Message 5696 of 5796 (874740)
04-08-2020 5:15 PM
Reply to: Message 5695 by PaulK
04-08-2020 3:45 PM


Re: John Oliver on OAN misinformation idiocy
American citizens, legal US residents, Hong Kong and Macau.
Most were in January. Many direct from Wuhan.

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JonF
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Message 5704 of 5796 (874750)
04-08-2020 9:23 PM


White House was warned early
https://news.yahoo.com/...80111894--abc-news-topstories.html
quote:
As far back as late November, U.S. intelligence officials were warning that a contagion was sweeping through China’s Wuhan region, changing the patterns of life and business and posing a threat to the population, according to four sources briefed on the secret reporting.
Concerns about what is now known to be the novel coronavirus pandemic were detailed in a November intelligence report by the military's National Center for Medical Intelligence (NCMI), according to two officials familiar with the document’s contents.
The report was the result of analysis of wire and computer intercepts, coupled with satellite images. It raised alarms because an out-of-control disease would pose a serious threat to U.S. forces in Asia -- forces that depend on the NCMI’s work. And it paints a picture of an American government that could have ramped up mitigation and containment efforts far earlier to prepare for a crisis poised to come home.
"Analysts concluded it could be a cataclysmic event," one of the sources said of the NCMI’s report. "It was then briefed multiple times to" the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Pentagon’s Joint Staff and the White House.
That alone wouldn't be enough to kick off a major effort, but it is another in the chorus of experts the Administration ignored.

  
JonF
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Message 5710 of 5796 (874767)
04-09-2020 10:37 AM


The most lawless Administration by far
Grassley Requests Trump Provide Legitimate Reason For Firing Intelligence Watchdog
quote:
The senators pointed out that Trump was legally required to give the Senate and House Intelligence Committees his reasons in detail for firing an inspector general, and that the law mandates he do so 30 days in advance.
However, Trump only told the Senate Intelligence Committee that he no longer had the fullest confidence in Atkinson, and the inspector general had already been fired by then.
Congressional intent is clear that an expression of lost confidence, without further explanation, is not sufficient to fulfill the requirements of the statute, the senators wrote. This is in large part because Congress intended that inspectors general only be removed when there is clear evidence of wrongdoing or failure to perform the duties of the office, and not for reasons unrelated to their performance, to help preserve IG independence.

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JonF
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Message 5724 of 5796 (874810)
04-10-2020 3:48 PM


Grifters gotta grift
REVEALED: White House pushed FEMA to give its biggest coronavirus contract to a company that never had to bid
quote:
In an unusual move, even in times of disaster, the White House stepped into the federal purchasing process, ordering the Federal Emergency Management Agency to award a contract to AirBoss of America. The Trump administration has rushed through hundreds of deals to address the pandemic without the usual oversight, more than $760 million reported as of this week, but the AirBoss transaction is the single largest no-bid purchase, a ProPublica analysis of federal purchasing data found.
While FEMA placed the order, it was directed to do so by the White House, ProPublica found.
It is unclear why the White House chose AirBoss for the protective equipment, which is similar to products made by other vendors.
Raise your hand if you think there's more to the story.

  
JonF
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Message 5726 of 5796 (874814)
04-10-2020 4:47 PM
Reply to: Message 5723 by Faith
04-10-2020 3:09 PM


Re: Chicago area hospital drive-thru tests more people with antibodies than active virus
Sounds a tad fishy to me. As far as I know we don't have the capability to do that testing accurately. We definitely don't have an FDA approved test.
Coronavirus antibody testing: What is it? Can it reopen US economy?
quote:
How reliable are these tests?
Over 50 commercial manufacturers are seeking FDA approval for antibody tests, Theel said.
But Dr. Raed Dweik, chairman of the Respiratory Institute at the Cleveland Clinic, said some of the tests he's seen aren't accurate enough to determine if someone is truly immune to the coronavirus.
This is because antibodies for the coronavirus that causes COVID-19 look very similar to antibodies that respond to coronaviruses that cause other illnesses, such as the common cold.
Tests could mistakenly identify antibodies as being for the coronavirus that causes COVID-19, producing a false positive. Dweik said it will take more time to develop a test that can accurately detect the right antibodies.
"The timing is tricky," he said. "Developing this test has been fraught with problems."
In addition, scientists don't know a lot about the protective value of coronavirus antibodies, said Dr. Carlos del Rio, an infectious disease expert and executive associate dean at Emory University. The test to identify HIV, for example, is an antibody test. "Having those antibodies doesn't necessarily mean immunity," he said.
Few of the coronavirus antibody tests have been vetted to determine their clinical accuracy, Theel said. No test is 100 percent accurate, she said, and it's up to the clinical laboratories to decide which ones are best for their patients.
"It's one of the biggest concerns right now because there's so many tests out there and we don’t know how the vast majority of them work," she said.
{emphasis added}
US coronavirus cases top 500,000 as researchers say the worst is yet to come in Texas and Florida - CNN (today, the 10th)
quote:
Antibody tests that would verify whether a person recently had the novel coronavirus could be available within a week, according to the nation's top infectious disease expert.
"Within a period of a week or so, we're going to have a rather large number of tests that are available," Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said on CNN's "New Day" Friday morning.

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JonF
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Message 5727 of 5796 (874815)
04-10-2020 4:55 PM


Could he be stupider?
Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
Edited by JonF, : No reason given.

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JonF
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Message 5728 of 5796 (874816)
04-10-2020 5:07 PM


He so wishes to rewrite history.
Worker threw exception | www.rawstory.com | Cloudflare
quote:
The ad clips Biden’s words out of context to misleadingly imply that Biden criticized Trump’s decision to restrict travel from China, when that’s not what Biden did, wrote Sargent. Second, the ad relies on numerous past quotes from Biden to demonstrate he’s supposedly been soft on China. But those quotes were mostly boilerplate diplomatic language and Trump has repeatedly praised China in language very close to what Biden has used And third, the Asian man that Biden bowed to turns out to be Gary Locke, a former Washington governor and U.S. ambassador to China, an American.
But there’s a deeper absurdity here that needs to be appreciated, continued Sargent. Throughout the early weeks of coronavirus, Trump repeatedly praised China’s handling of coronavirus. Importantly, this praise was central to advancing the argument that Trump had totally beaten down coronavirus with merciless force and efficiency: Trump kept insisting he was successfully collaborating with China to defeat it. Yet at around that same time, Biden was warning against taking China’s assurances about coronavirus at face value.
On February 25, for example, Trump praised China for working very, very hard to contain the virus, and that it’s going to go away before it does real harm in America because China is getting it more and more under control.
The Faiths of this country are gonna swallow it whole.

  
JonF
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Message 5734 of 5796 (874834)
04-10-2020 9:28 PM
Reply to: Message 5732 by Faith
04-10-2020 8:30 PM


Re: Chicago area hospital drive-thru tests more people with antibodies than active virus
In what manner have the experts been wrong on coronavirus so many times? Would you like to compare that with Trump’s errors?
The phlebotomist could be the world's greatest expert on antibodies and she still needs a test to perform. Equipment, reagants, procedure. We don't have validated and approved tests. So how did she get at the coronavirus antibodies?
I'm not saying the report is true, I'm not saying it's false. A search didn't turn up anything useful. I need more evidence to reach a conclusion.

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JonF
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Message 5750 of 5796 (874873)
04-11-2020 9:13 AM
Reply to: Message 5736 by Faith
04-10-2020 11:22 PM


Re: Chicago area hospital drive-thru tests more people with antibodies than active virus
Experts change predictions based on new evidence. That's a good thing.
What other experts are criticizing them? Hannity? Limbaugh?

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JonF
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Message 5752 of 5796 (874875)
04-11-2020 9:18 AM
Reply to: Message 5737 by Faith
04-10-2020 11:27 PM


Re: Chicago area hospital drive-thru tests more people with antibodies than active virus
Yeah, the "let people die for Wall Street" proposal. Build up immunity with hundreds of thousands of deaths.
Schoolchildren are susceptible, although not much. But they're also great carriers, infecting all their home.
Levin is not an expert. His guest may or may not be.
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JonF
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Message 5753 of 5796 (874878)
04-11-2020 9:24 AM
Reply to: Message 5741 by Faith
04-11-2020 5:53 AM


Re: Chicago area hospital drive-thru tests more people with antibodies than active virus
She wouldn't see the results. Only the doctor , the patient, and any other professional involved in treatment.
Edited by JonF, : No reason given.

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