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Message 5255 of 5796 (873077)
03-09-2020 12:23 PM
Reply to: Message 5208 by Faith
03-07-2020 4:31 PM


Re: Redbaiting on the rise again
As I understand it, the only reason the Dems are attacking Sanders is their fear he can't win against Trump. ...
No, it's because the corporate elite DNC/DINO crowd is afraid that he CAN win. It's the billionaires and their minions in the party that are against him, because the real "battle" is between the rich rich and the working people.
That's why Bloomberg entered the race.
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Message 5321 of 5796 (873216)
03-11-2020 1:57 PM
Reply to: Message 5302 by Faith
03-10-2020 3:35 PM


Re: Red baiting
... Red baiting is just rightly identifying Communism where it exists, ...
No.
Red-Baiting is calling someone a communist who isn't a communist, it's an ad hominum attack.
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Message 5328 of 5796 (873236)
03-11-2020 4:46 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by Faith
09-07-2018 3:58 PM


Re: Twitter Bans Alex Jones
So Jones was booted off for posting a video of himself berating someone, a CNN reporter:
He's got almost a million followers, and Infowars half a million. Isn't that the real reason they want to ban him? He's got views they don't like and too many other people do like them.
It's not a matter of dislike Faith. It's a matter of recognizing a con artist. All this shows is that
(a) American education is woefully inadequate at preparing people for reasoning, and
(b) All these "followers" should turn in their membership cards to the human (Homo sapiens race.
Human - Wikipedia
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Message 5330 of 5796 (873240)
03-11-2020 5:08 PM
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03-11-2020 3:53 PM


Re: Red baiting
However, although they were NOT calling someone a Communist who is not a Communist, Sanders IS a Communist and calling him a Communist would ALSO not be red baiting.
Sanders is a democratic socialist, NOT a communist:
Democratic government (by the people)
Capitalist economy with socialist programs (for the people)
The US is a democratic socialist nation. The largest expenditure of the federal budget is defense, funded entirely by taxes and for the benefit of everyone.
We also have public funding of K to 12th grade. Sanders proposal to increase that to include community college, state college and trade schools is just increasing an already existing socialist system to more adequately deal with the needs of people today.
Medicare for All is also just expanding an existing system to cover more people more adequately, and it is not radical as all other developed countries have it. The government the US set up in Iraq has it. The government that the US heavily supports in Israel has it.
These programs are for the people, funded by the government and put in place democratically. That is not communism by any stretch of a fevered brain.
Well, all those who were objecting to Sanders' posi6tive remarks about Cuba didn't even call him a Communist, they merely, rightly, objected to his positive remarks about a murderous Communist regime. So your accusing them of red baiting was extremely unfair.
Oh, that very much WAS red-baiting, because Sanders did not say anything positive about the Cuban government itself. All he said was that the education system and the health system were better than they were before.
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Message 5346 of 5796 (873308)
03-13-2020 11:57 AM
Reply to: Message 5331 by Faith
03-12-2020 8:28 AM


Re: Red baiting
There is no such thing as a democratic socialist and Sanders is known to be a Communist.
LOLz, so Wrong on both counts, the world reality contradicts you once again. You live in a fantasy world.
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abe: Social democracy - Wikipedia
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Social democracy is a political, social and economic philosophy that supports economic and social interventions to promote social justice within the framework of a liberal democratic polity and a capitalist-oriented economy. The protocols and norms used to accomplish this involve a commitment to representative and participatory democracy, measures for income redistribution, regulation of the economy in the general interest and social welfare provisions.[1][2][3] Due to longstanding governance by social democratic parties during the post-war consensus and their influence on socioeconomic policy in the Nordic countries, social democracy became associated with the Nordic model and Keynesianism within political circles in the late 20th century.[4][5] It has also been seen by some political commentators as a synonym for modern socialism[6][7][8] and as overlapping with democratic socialism.[9][10]
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Message 5348 of 5796 (873313)
03-13-2020 1:26 PM
Reply to: Message 5347 by JonF
03-13-2020 12:00 PM


Re: How to handle the problem
This is how you cover up incompetence, especially incompetence due to ignorance and inflated ego.
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Message 5356 of 5796 (873340)
03-14-2020 4:09 PM
Reply to: Message 5349 by Faith
03-14-2020 10:07 AM


Re: Red baiting
But Bernie DID say that:
National Review writes:
What happened and existed in the Soviet Union was not socialism. It was authoritarian Communism, Bernie replied, inducing a bunch of his historically illiterate fans to applaud.
Actually Bernie is correct and historically accurate. The National Review is actually misrepresenting history (red baiting much?). Communism has never been tried on a national scale.
Disagree? Show me where this definition of communism says it is an authoritarian or totalitarian form of government:
Communism - Wikipedia
... Always insisting that the way it has actually been done is a mistake, that true Marxism wouldn't do that. But every place it has been tried, it does just that. Murder dissidents, throw them into prison etc.
... Because that is the authoritarian governments every place it has been tried, not communism.
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Message 5516 of 5796 (873927)
03-21-2020 11:58 AM
Reply to: Message 5510 by JonF
03-20-2020 3:10 PM


Re: Trump continues to lie and downplay the danger
Let's add the republican senators to the list of those responsible for US failure to properly attack the problem -- they had their chance to remove him and have someone else in charge.
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Message 5630 of 5796 (874329)
03-29-2020 10:14 AM
Reply to: Message 5624 by Faith
03-29-2020 1:58 AM


Surely that graph merely represents the increase in testing.
Do you realize that your comment means we are in worse shape than if it is actually measuring an increase in infections?
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Message 5634 of 5796 (874337)
03-29-2020 12:45 PM
Reply to: Message 5633 by Percy
03-29-2020 12:30 PM


Re: The Spreading Trump Virus
Worker threw exception | www.rawstory.com | Cloudflare
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Message 5644 of 5796 (874575)
04-06-2020 11:02 AM


John Oliver on OAN misinformation idiocy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnSILVWDKL8
Why conservatives have some crazy ideas ...
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Message 5690 of 5796 (874731)
04-08-2020 3:34 PM
Reply to: Message 5679 by Faith
04-08-2020 2:20 PM


chinavirus idiocy
... When did Pelosi make a big production out of going to Chinatown in San Francisco to prove she's not a racist or whatever her point was? Risky thing to do if the Chinese fly back and forth from China but I guess she survived.
Didn't hear about that, but it is logical to show that the coronavirus was no greater threat there than elsewhere (Washington state?), and that the label "chinavirus" was misleading, leading to racist violence against chinese-americans.
You do know how dog-whistles work, yes? They operate at a frequency that normal people can't hear; in politics they are code words or wording that normal people don't notice, but a target audience understands.
Trump is a master whistler.
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Message 5697 of 5796 (874741)
04-08-2020 5:29 PM
Reply to: Message 5691 by dwise1
04-08-2020 3:37 PM


Flattening the Curve, State by State
Even though the earliest reported cases were in Washington State, California, and New York, Washington and California took action much earlier than New York. For that matter, I recall that San Francisco ordered a lock-down very early on. I heard of Seattle implementing measures around the same time, and the rest of California following suit.
So these actions will/should make the national curve look a little better. Actions before Trump did anything. He will take credit for it (there are two types of people, those that do things and those that take credit).
The national picture will be lumpy though, as each hot-spot goes through their peaks at different times, Detroit and Chicago for instance -- expect it to rocket up as NOLA mardi-gras celebrants start becoming statistics, same for Florida (late to close beaches - still open mid march).
Of course a lot of those people were visitors that then returned home, spreading infection as they went (two weeks spring break, not enough time for symptoms to show)
Talk about Typhoid Mary, each of those dots could be an infected person, and this doesn't count the encounters between these people and others on the way home.
I expect a similar picture from Mardi-Gras ...
So the national picture is muddier than state by state data.
The scary part is how this data is collected.
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Message 5698 of 5796 (874742)
04-08-2020 5:35 PM
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04-08-2020 3:40 PM


Re: chinavirus idiocy
Does that mean that we should be seeing more anti-Mexican violence around Cinco de Mayo? Because of Corona beer?
I did see a comment that 38% of Americans thought it came from the beer, but I haven't fact-checked it, it sounds like a made up statistic ...
Did Corona Beer Sales Drop Sharply Due to Fear About the Coronavirus? | Snopes.com -- false
But I don't doubt that some did think there was a connection.
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Message 5748 of 5796 (874870)
04-11-2020 9:05 AM
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04-11-2020 8:27 AM


Volunteers?
... It's not so much letting it spread as it is trying to keep it limited to people who aren't as vulernable ...
Shall we ask for volunteers?
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