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JonF
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Message 5754 of 5796 (874881)
04-11-2020 9:39 AM
Reply to: Message 5742 by Faith
04-11-2020 6:10 AM


Re: Chicago area hospital drive-thru tests more people with antibodies than active virus
If he thinks Covid-19 is essentially a flu, he's an ignorant quack. No matter what sheepskins he has.
Flu viruses and coronaviruses are not genetically related. The incubation time of this coronavirus is much longer than flu, making transmission while asymptomatic much more likely. The percentages of severe and critical infections are significant higher for coronavirus. So far, the mortality rate of Covid-19 is much higher than flu (Of course the experts will change their predictions as evidence accumulates.) We have vaccines that block many strains of flu, and nothing for Covid-19.

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JonF
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Message 5755 of 5796 (874882)
04-11-2020 9:43 AM
Reply to: Message 5744 by Faith
04-11-2020 7:54 AM


Re: too much quarantine?
As of now herd immunity requires hundreds of thousands to millions of deaths.
But it's worth it to save Wall Street.
Anyone who says Covid-19 is just a flu is an ignorant quack. See previous message and Coronavirus disease (COVID-19): Similarities and differences between COVID-19 and Influenza (that's WHO).

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JonF
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Message 5756 of 5796 (874883)
04-11-2020 9:46 AM
Reply to: Message 5746 by Faith
04-11-2020 8:27 AM


Re: too much quarantine?
Maybe it's not feasible. Maybe the virus is more lethal than this idea takes into account.
Ya think? Covid-19 is especially lethal. Much more than the flu.

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JonF
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Message 5757 of 5796 (874884)
04-11-2020 9:52 AM
Reply to: Message 5751 by AZPaul3
04-11-2020 9:15 AM


Re: Could he be stupider?
Edited by JonF, : No reason given.

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JonF
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Message 5765 of 5796 (874900)
04-11-2020 4:56 PM
Reply to: Message 5763 by dwise1
04-11-2020 4:44 PM


Re: Chicago area hospital drive-thru tests more people with antibodies than active virus
Yes! We need testing. Now!.
Of course Trump addressed this need by trying to get the Feds out of the testing business. That was too much for a lot of people.
Following Backlash, Trump Admin Now Says Funding for COVID-19 Testing Sites Will Continue – Rolling Stone

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JonF
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Message 5776 of 5796 (874961)
04-12-2020 9:00 AM
Reply to: Message 5766 by dwise1
04-11-2020 5:07 PM


Re: Chicago area hospital drive-thru tests more people with antibodies than active virus
He wanted to stop funding testing because people don't count. Only money counts.
But the decision was reversed. Funding continues.
Edited by JonF, : No reason given.

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JonF
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Message 5782 of 5796 (875043)
04-13-2020 4:43 PM
Reply to: Message 5781 by Faith
04-13-2020 3:11 PM


Re: too much quarantine?
I listen to MANY sources, not just one "host. And I hear many different opinions. Lately there are many emphasizing the down side of avoiding the virus altogether, which is that as soon as you relax the quarantine you do start getting more cases and more deaths.
I.e. you are listening only to strongly right wing sources.
Because you don't have herd immunity. This is going to happen WHENEVER you relax the quarantine.
There is now strong reason to believe that California has herd immunity.
I.e. social distancing doesn't work, but social distancing works.

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JonF
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Message 5783 of 5796 (875046)
04-13-2020 4:48 PM
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04-13-2020 3:11 PM


Re: too much quarantine?
Oh, and Covid-19 is much much more virulent and deadly than the flu. Social Distancing has softened the blow; without it the death toll would be much higher.
When and how to "return to normal" is a difficult question. But we do know now is not the time, and a month from now is 99.99999% certain it won't be the time.
Edited by JonF, : No reason given.

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