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Percy
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Message 3796 of 4573 (875149)
04-15-2020 12:58 PM


Here are a couple of precious interactions between Trump and reporters from Trump's Monday coronavirus campaign rally from Paula Reid and Kaitlan Collins pop the toddler king's balloon and he melts down | Salon.com. Reid is CBS White House correspondent Paula Reid:
Reid: What did you do with that time that you bought? The argument is that you bought yourself some time. You didn't use it to prepare hospitals. You didn't use it to ramp up testing. Right now, nearly 20 million people are unemployed.
Trump: You're so disgraceful. It's so disgraceful the way you say that.
Reid: Tens of thousands of Americans are dead. How is this rant supposed to make people feel confident in an unprecedented crisis? What did your administration do in February for the time that your travel ban bought you?
Trump: A lot.
Reid: What?
Trump: A lot, and in fact, we'll give you a list. We did a lot. Look, look, you know you're a fake.
In this exchange Collins is CNN White House correspondent Kaitlin Collins:
Collins: You said when someone is president of the United States, their authority is total. That is not true. Who told you that?
Trump: You know what we're going to do? We're going to write up papers on this.
Collins: Has any governor agreed that you have the authority to decide when their states
Trump: I haven't asked anybody because. You know why? Because I don't have to .
Collins: But who told you the president has the total authority?
Trump: Enough!
Nice to see some reporters actually challenging Trump in real time in front of the cameras instead of in a later report.
--Percy

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Message 3797 of 4573 (875155)
04-15-2020 2:36 PM
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04-15-2020 12:58 PM


It’s past time now for several reporters, congresscritters, and advisory staff to all as one voice yell BULLSHIT at this two-bit wannabe tyrant when he starts on this crap. On live TV. This is ridiculous and needs to stop.
We really do have a 25th Amendment.

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Message 3798 of 4573 (875156)
04-15-2020 2:48 PM
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04-15-2020 2:36 PM


The issue with 25ing 45 is two-fold.
First, Pence is a bigger threat than the Orange Menace and unfortunately, more effective.
Second, 25ing is similar to impeachment. And the Senate with the Chief Justice presiding determined that if the President believes some act is in the Best Interests of the Nation, then that act is lawful and does not rise to an impeachable offense.

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Message 3799 of 4573 (875160)
04-15-2020 3:05 PM


Trump first, America second.
He wants us to think he's responsible for the payment. And nothing else.
Edited by JonF, : No reason given.

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Message 3800 of 4573 (875172)
04-15-2020 4:04 PM
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04-15-2020 3:05 PM


Re: Trump first, America second.
We got ours, direct deposit, so don't have to see nasty signature.
Enjoy

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Message 3801 of 4573 (875184)
04-15-2020 9:08 PM


Of course he did.
Trump Launched a Coronavirus Economic Council Without Telling Members They Were on It
quote:
Trump proudly touted his Great American Economic Revival Industry Groups during a White House press briefing in the Rose Garden on Tuesday night. And yet, many of the listed names and companies did not learn of their new, supposed advisory roles until the president read their names on live TV, or until after the White House published the full list. Others said they hadn’t even committed to working with the Trump administration on this, and only agreed to take a phone call from the White House to see if the effort was worthwhile or just for show.
It turns out it was the latter. Kind of. Less than 24 hours later, it had become clear that industry groups were mainly being used as a sounding board, with some leaders even encouraging the president to not abandon public safety policy for the sake of an economic activity sugar rush. Meanwhile, Bloomberg reported that Trump was abandoning the idea of creating an in-house council of White House aides and advisers, though officials cautioned that such a proposal had never been formally announced.
The chaos had all the hallmarks of a half-baked Trump administration idea: A flashy rollout, with almost no, even rudimentary, pre-planning or execution.

  
Percy
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Message 3802 of 4573 (875187)
04-16-2020 9:43 AM


Explaining the Inexplicable Support for Trump
It is apparently in human nature when seeing some qualities they like to ignore dishonesty, duplicity, cruelty and inhumanity. This is an except from a WWII diary by a Nazi-supporting citizen of the Netherlands as the Nazis occupied her country as published in the NYT in The Lost Diaries of War - The New York Times. The Nazis invaded the Netherlands on May 10, 1940:
quote:
May 15, 1940
The [Dutch] air defense people ordered us to build barricades in the street in front of our house. Everyone had to help loosen tiles, stack them and take out all kinds of junk. I even saw parts of bed frames in the street. It was just ridiculous, absolutely laughable; it looked as if it’d been done by children. Later, we heard that citizens weren’t even allowed to do this. Anyway, what were these barricades to the Germans? They would easily push everything aside with their powerful vehicles. Now they are proper soldiers; not like our boys, who couldn’t control their nerves and just kept shooting at random.
The way the Germans acted was so proper, so magnificent, so disciplined; they command nothing but respect. The locals could learn a lot from the Germans. Just look at them marching by, on foot or on horseback or with their guns, looking so beautiful, so healthy, and with such cheerful faces; they’re big and sturdy and very neat, making you think, inadvertently, some army the Dutch have! The people here are so rude and impolite, while the Germans are so proper and polite! It’s easy to see the difference. This is the Netherlands, how dare they fight such a powerful, strong people? No wonder they had to give up fighting after four days, the difference was too great.
And what about our officers well, not all of them, of course stirrers and rabble-rousers. I’ve always been one for the military and considered them our protectors, but I’ve had more than enough of them. I have no respect for them anymore. They have really frightened me. When I think of everything that’s happened, I feel so embittered. I would love to let them have it. I’m livid, my heart is on fire. But Nat. Socialism says we’re not to repay evil with evil! How is this possible if you harbor feelings of revenge for all the humiliation we’ve had to endure? It’s nearly impossible, yet we must.
We need to rebuild, that’s what’s required of us. The fact that there are still people who support the Queen is incomprehensible to us; a queen who has fled her country because she feared for her life, who has abandoned her people in need; who has let her soldiers bleed to death and sought refuge herself! Surely, a mother doesn’t abandon her child? The Germans wouldn’t have harmed her; they are much too honorable for that.
Just as many people saw in Hitler qualities that clearly were not there, so today do many people see in Trump qualities that are just as clearly absent.
--Percy

  
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Message 3803 of 4573 (875189)
04-16-2020 9:58 AM
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04-15-2020 4:04 PM


Re: Trump first, America second.
RAZD writes:
We got ours, direct deposit, so don't have to see nasty signature.
We got this at the website:
The referenced Frequently Asked Questions webpage says:
In certain cases, the Get My Payment app will be unable to tell you the status of your payment. You may receive this message for one of the following reasons:
  • If you are not eligible for a payment (see IRS.gov on who is eligible and who is not eligible)
  • If you are required to file a tax return and have not filed in tax year 2018 or 2019.
  • If you recently filed your return or provided information through Non-Filers: Enter Your Payment Info on IRS.gov. Your payment status will be updated when processing is completed.
  • If you are a SSA or RRB Form 1099 recipient, SSI or VA benefit recipient — the IRS is working with your agency to issue your payment; your information is not available in this app yet.
You can check the app again to see whether there has been an update to your information. Get My Payment data is updated once per day, so there’s no need to check back more frequently.
None of these cover our situation. We're just standard "work for a salary with federal taxes automatically deducted, sell a little ESPP stock, and file our tax return on time every year" type of people. The only thing out of the ordinary is that we usually end up owing a small amount of money every year instead of getting a refund.
--Percy

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jar
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Message 3804 of 4573 (875194)
04-16-2020 10:45 AM


No one I know who is on SSA has received a check and there has been no notification of when that might happen. And it is certainly not that SSA does not have our banking information.
For many of us a delay is not a major catastrophe but for some it would really really make a difference in their lives.

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Message 3805 of 4573 (875202)
04-16-2020 12:49 PM
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04-16-2020 10:45 AM


I am on SS and I received a direct deposit yesterday.
However, I also filed my income tax for 2019 with a refund. DFAS takes out income tax withholding from my military retirement, so I do get a refund for which I provided IRS with my banking information for direct deposit. That would also be the case for SS beneficiaries 70.5 or older who have to withdraw a certain percentage of their IRA and 401(k) accounts each year -- account managers should withhold for taxes, plus the withdrawal is not only taxable but it also makes part of one's SS benefits taxable as well.
Oh, and the deposit entry when I looked at it online mentioned IRS.
So we have a few different scenarios which center around our tax returns:
  1. You filed a tax return, got a refund, and opted for direct deposit. IRS has your bank info.
  2. You filed a tax return, but didn't get got a refund (eg, ended up owing a little, as per Percy's scenario). Assuming that this applies to all your past returns that IRS will keep record of, IRS does not have your bank info.
  3. You did not file a return, IRS does not have your bank info.
So then the plan for SS beneficiaries covered by scenarios #2 and #3 is for the SSA to issue those payments, I take it. The delay in getting those payments out would depend on how late the SSA was informed of this.

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Message 3806 of 4573 (875208)
04-16-2020 2:48 PM


Orange m***n flops again! Film at 11!
Trump’s effort to enlist private companies to reopen economy derided as an utter failure
quote:
An attempt by President Donald Trump to enlist the assistance of private business leaders in his efforts to reopen the U.S. economy by early May was panned as a failure by participants and observers alike as the White House response to the coronavirus pandemic appears set to make an economic crash worse.
He’s got to stop talking about turning the economy back on and start talking about making people feel safe, things that are happening around testing, and the health care system, one CEO who commented anonymously for fear of White House reprisals told Politico. That’s the only way you will really get the economy reopened over a period of time.
The meetings and rollout of the president’s Opening Our Country Council were reportedly beset by confusion and chaos as the White House announced a series of calls with executives on Tuesday night without consulting participants, many of whom had preexisting commitments on quarterly earnings they could not reschedule.

  
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Message 3807 of 4573 (875218)
04-17-2020 11:47 AM
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04-16-2020 12:49 PM


got mine
I am on SS and I received a direct deposit yesterday.
Oh, and the deposit entry when I looked at it online mentioned IRS.
So we have a few different scenarios which center around our tax returns:
  1. You filed a tax return, got a refund, and opted for direct deposit. IRS has your bank info.
  2. You filed a tax return, but didn't get got a refund (eg, ended up owing a little, as per Percy's scenario). Assuming that this applies to all your past returns that IRS will keep record of, IRS does not have your bank info.
  3. You did not file a return, IRS does not have your bank info.
Because we also get Canadian Pension and disbursements from Canadian "401k" we pay taxes in Canada, and they take a big chunk because we are non-residents. These always right off US taxes so we get refunds, which we have direct deposit to our bank.
Enjoy

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Message 3808 of 4573 (875221)
04-17-2020 4:16 PM


The evidence of malfeasance is overwhelming

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Message 3809 of 4573 (875223)
04-17-2020 5:34 PM
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04-17-2020 4:16 PM


Re: The evidence of malfeasance is overwhelming
you know that none of your tweet posts show anything but "Tweet with this ID was deleted or is invalid: 1251188815886200833 "

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Message 3810 of 4573 (875225)
04-17-2020 6:00 PM
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Re: The evidence of malfeasance is overwhelming
I can see them.

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