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AZPaul3
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Message 11 of 58 (875123)
04-14-2020 2:19 PM


Hidden Poison
I have two cents. I’ll spend them here.
I see two venues. Stupid of the entrenched variety (as in religion / willful ignorance / lack of intellect) and deliberate poison to watch the world burn.
Trying to shield society from them only results in one thing. It drives them underground where they fester and spread unchallenged.
In this case we are dealing with religiously inspired politically motivated stupid. Let it be seen for what it is.
Censorship, no matter how well intentioned, is its own poison on society and is never the answer.

Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

  
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Message 25 of 58 (875165)
04-15-2020 3:28 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by mike the wiz
04-15-2020 3:01 PM


Re: Banning Faith had no effect of her FAKE NEWS.
quote:
Creation scientists are people that have scientific credentials, and therefore count as scientists but they believe and expounds scientific evidence that supports creation and the flood.
Strictly speaking, "creation science" is more of a term those scientists use pertaining to their own investigations within that paradigm. However a better word is apologetics.
On the whole, apologetics deals with giving reasoned defences of biblical Christianity and the miracles of the creation and flood.
But creationism as apologetics incorporates scientific evidence which favours creation and design because we expect that evidence under that paradigm.
Etc. etc.
It's like Stephen Meyer says, truth is more important than the toying of words. (semantics).
Oh, Mikey Takes a Wiz, you are just too funny!

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Message 26 of 58 (875167)
04-15-2020 3:48 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by mike the wiz
04-15-2020 11:34 AM


There are plenty of evolutionists here like Jar and Tangle who have always represented a very poor standard and fill their posts with rhetorical nonsense a lot of the time and many who personally attacked Faith more than discussing things with her, but they don't seem to be getting banned.
You really don't understand Percy's reasoning for her ban, do you.
Has nothing to do with "poor standards" or "rhetorical nonsense" or "personal attacks".
Has to do with her continued dissemination of what could be physically dangerous, deadly misinformation, even after repeated correction.
Open mouth - insert tiny foot. That happens when you don't know what the subject is all about.
You do know what they say about men with tiny feet, don't you Mikey?
Ask that Orange Bastard in the White House. He can tell you all about it.
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Message 30 of 58 (875178)
04-15-2020 5:16 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by mike the wiz
04-15-2020 4:21 PM


No, I will weep no more. In such a night To shut me out?
What an interesting stream-of-consciousness dump of almost pure 185 proof bullshit.
One has to wonder if you learned from or taught Trump.
I will give you credit for having a more sophisticated rhetoric than the Orange Bastard with his simplistic childlike playground syntax.
And I see you picked up on the intellectual dysfunctions of Duane Gish.
Congratulations, Mikey, you are becoming a consummate bullshit artist in the finest traditions we expect of a christian pseudo-intellectual.
And no need to complain that I didn't respond to any of the assertions your diatribes allege. The bullshit you spew, which has been soundly refuted in a hundred different ways by thousands of real intellectuals over the past two centuries, does not require or deserve any response.
You are a waste of bandwidth. Think of all those poor electrons wizzing for Mikey in such a useless attempt to justify your demented and dismissed set of delusions.
All you've done is to add to the heat death of the universe. The shame!
O, that way madness lies; let me shun that; No more of that.
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Message 32 of 58 (875181)
04-15-2020 5:39 PM
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04-15-2020 4:21 PM


Believe it or not we can get up in the morning and put our socks on without Dawkins' help.
Yet you can't deal with the vagaries of the human condition without instruction from some blood monster on high?
No, Mikey. You need a lot more help than just with your socks.

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Message 46 of 58 (875281)
04-20-2020 7:03 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by Hyroglyphx
04-20-2020 3:51 PM


Re: Not wrong
... since she's so nearly universally despised.
We may despise her religious ideas or her spouting off from a lack of knowledge about well everything but the lady herself? No. She is not to be despised.
She is the crazy lady standing in the dark corner of the library visions of an intellect gone wrong mumbling almost inaudibly as she reads from the bible soon to burst forth her loud incantations against the devil and his science while smiling at the one small shaft of a sunbeam that manages to pierce the darkness and reach her toes.
She is our poor demented sister to be pitied, made fun of, scolded, ridiculed, scorned but loved all the same. Never despised.

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Message 47 of 58 (875282)
04-20-2020 8:14 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by NosyNed
04-20-2020 6:51 PM


Re: Murky
Ned,
If this society can manage the spectacle of NAZIs marching through Skokie, Illinois, then one crazy person at EvC spouting stupid while continually lambasted for it in front of god and everybody is no threat to the democratic foundations of the nation.
A large part of the insidious nature of our present fake news culture (which has been a large part of humanity since forever) is the over-reaction to the muddied waters by not just censoring an overwhelming fire hose stream of propaganda but now to scrutinizing *every* idea before it is allowed to be expressed and censoring every idea the platform owner does not like.
Propaganda is a powerful poison when the Russians and the Republican reich-wing spew it everywhere to destabilize a society and it should be countered at every turn, even censored *when* it threatens to overwhelm a social platform and become the only voice to be heard.
But that is not the case here.
In the matter of EvC versus Faith we are dealing with an expression of stupid well challenged and has been exposed for what it is.
I understand Percy’s desire to not see *his* platform become a venue of harmful pseudo-science BS. But he has ventured into the public square in a democratic society and there is a more fundamental doctrine of our democracy to be served. Censorship is not it.
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