NvC-1: What is the premise of Naturalism in Biology?

All sciences study what can be studied. The supernatural cannot be studied by scientific methods, and therefor supernatural is not considered in sciences. Whether or not “God does not exist” is not considered because the supernatural is not testable, being supernatural.

We study the natural world to see how we can explain it through natural processes, because that is what we can do, not because of belief.

In biology we study how life lives. In Abiogenesis we study how life may have developed. In evolution we study how life evolves from generation to generation, what are the processes involved and how do they work to explain the diversity of life as we know it, from history, from archaeology, from paleontology and from DNA. In ecology we study how life interacts.

It’s not a belief, it’s a result of studying the natural world with the scientific tools we have.

In other words you are setting up a straw man argument, and it particularly telling that you restrict evolution to “Darwinism” — because that is a common ploy of creationists and IDologists. As is your implication that evolution is based on belief.

Again, it is not a belief, it’s a result of studying the natural world with the scientific tools we have.

We study the natural world to see how we can explain it through natural processes, because that is what we can do, not because of belief.

And your argument is based on false premises and a strawman representation, and hence invalid.

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You still have it backwards.

It's not an a priori belief.

Science doesn't start with a belief, it starts with observations, then it develops theories to explain those observations, using known processes. To be science these theories must be testable, and that means we need to be able to discern cause and effect, and be able to repeat them. That limits us to natural processes.

Not having any means known to test metaphysical or supernatural processes, we are left with testing what we can with natural processes. In other words we are limited to the natural world and natural processes because we don't have any known tools to consistently test metaphysical or supernatural processes, and it is only when/if such tools become available that testing can include metaphysical or supernatural processes.

Again, it's not an a priori belief, it's a result of our limited ability to test the theories with natural processes.

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        GMm
FG =   ------  + γ
         d2

Solving for γ gives us

          GMm
γ = FG - ----- = 0
           d2

        γGMm
FG =  -------  
         d2

And solving for γ gives us:

      FG d2
γ = -------- = 1
       GMm

In neither case does the result change with or without γ, but what you cannot say is whether or not {god/s} created the universe such that this was so.

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Then you should use NDN, but even there you would be in error.

Trying to relabel evolution is something creationists do, it is not done by scientists, and it's like you can't bring yourself to simply say "evolution" ... why is that?

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Just want to see what your science writing looks like.

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To me information is irrelevant until there is communication, and communication is only important when you want it to be and understand it. Kind of like Schrodinger's Cat.

Is this really any different from:

(equation/proof)

Each defines gravity, slightly differently, but gravity exists without them.

The information is only needed by esoteric science.

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