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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8527 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.2 |
Just how bad does a president have to be to make George Bush 2 look really good?
Factio Republicana delenda est.
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2285 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 7.2 |
at least Bush 2 has empathy (or a reasonable simulation of it), do you think Trump spends more than a fleeting moment thinking about the service men under his command?
George W. Bush's veteran portraits yearn for a return to innocence - CNN StyleIt's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8527 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.2
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do you think Trump spends more than a fleeting moment thinking about the service men under his command? Trump doesn't spend more than a fleeting moment thinking. And those limited synaptic energies are dedicated to the aggrandizement of his own ego exclusively. I was never a Bush 2 fan but I must admit his video, as unexpected and unnecessary as it was since he is no longer in office, is a welcome sincere comfort from a republican operative. I would not have thought this of Bush 2 but I'm thinking he released this video as a counter to the lack of sympathetic leadership by Trump. To, in some small way, fill a glaring hole in the Republican leadership. I won't ever like him, but I will commend him for this effort.Factio Republicana delenda est.
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Percy Member Posts: 22479 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
From NYT earlier today:
From CNN a few minutes ago:
Basically, they're doing whatever Trump feels like doing at any particular moment. Planning? Strategizing? Organizing? What's that? --Percy
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
And now he’s filed a whistleblower report
It seems that things were not good from the start
From spring 2017 until his "involuntary removal" last month, "HHS [Health and Human Services] leadership pressured Dr. Bright and BARDA to ignore expert recommendations and instead to award lucrative contracts based on political connections and cronyism," Contacts with Trump’s inner circle seem to have be been an advantage....
...In attempting to justify the extension of this failed contract, Mr. Clerici emphasized that Aeolus's Chief Executive Officer was a 'wildcard' and a friend of Jared Kushner, President Trump's son-in-law and a Senior Advisor to the President.... Hydroxychloroquine came up:
"In an apparent effort to score a short-term political victory for the Administration during the escalating health crisis, the Office of the ASPR [Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response] pressured BARDA to promote the malaria drug chloroquine as a therapeutic for COVID-19, despite a clear lack of scientific support," the whistleblower complaint said. And Bright claims he was sacked because he was thought to have blown the whistle on chloroquine.
"HHS leadership, including [HHS] Secretary [Alex] Azar and Dr. Kadlec, were already gunning for Dr. Bright's removal because of other issues he had raised about fraud, waste, and abuse, but they chose to remove him as BARDA Director within days of publication of the article about chloroquine because they suspected that he was the source," Bright's complaint said.
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vimesey Member (Idle past 93 days) Posts: 1398 From: Birmingham, England Joined:
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I read that one of Trump’s comments about his u-turn on the CV task force was as follows:
I thought we could wind it down sooner. But I had no idea how popular the taskforce is until actually yesterday when I started talking about winding down. It is appreciated by the public. So the metric is popularity. Not efficacy and success in saving lives, but popularity. Because lives don’t matter as much as Trump getting re-elected, do they ?Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 755 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined:
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It’s all about TV ratings. That number is the one Trump sort of understands.
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marc9000 Member Posts: 1522 From: Ky U.S. Joined: Member Rating: 1.3 |
Basically, they're doing whatever Trump feels like doing at any particular moment. Planning? Strategizing? Organizing? What's that? If he planned, strategized, organized, then absolutely refused to take into consideration any new information or changes in statistics, you'd heap praise on him for that? Several times, including just recently, ABC"s David Muir proclaimed that "PRESIDENT TRUMP REVERSES COURSE". Just like your USA Today headline uses the term "reversal" - it's an egregious lie. All he did was delay an action until a later date based on new information. These news outlets do this to mislead casual swing voters, trying to imply that Trump flails about, doing 180's based on whims. As long as the swing voters aren't paying much attention, it works for them. But when those who ARE paying attention take note of this and point it out to others, then it tends to cancel out any gains the crooked news media made. Polls taken of news media approval tend to bear this out. It's like when Trump stopped travel from China back in January, and was immediately called a xenophobe, racist, bigot, etc. by many Democrats and their puppets in the news media. Now those same people have REVERSED COURSE, (proper use of the term) and say Trump didn't act soon enough to slow or stop the spread of the virus. A LOT of swing voters noticed that course reversal. It's going to be a fun campaign season!
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marc9000 Member Posts: 1522 From: Ky U.S. Joined: Member Rating: 1.3 |
So the metric is popularity. Not efficacy and success in saving lives, but popularity. Because lives don’t matter as much as Trump getting re-elected, do they ? Stubbornly refusing to make adjustments based on new information goes along with dictators like Kim Jong Un, not U.S. presidents.
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vimesey Member (Idle past 93 days) Posts: 1398 From: Birmingham, England Joined:
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And what new information is he referencing ? Popularity.
Efficacy, results, saving lives, scientific data ? Nope. He just refers to popularity. That is the measure of a would-be dictator. Or a stuck up arsehole, if you prefer.Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?
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Percy Member Posts: 22479 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
In case it isn't already obvious, there is a new Trump reelection strategy:
--Percy
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JonF Member (Idle past 188 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Stubbornly refusing to make adjustments based on new information goes along with dictators like Kim Jong Un, not U.S. presidents.
Except Trump.
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Percy Member Posts: 22479 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.7
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marc9000 writes: Basically, they're doing whatever Trump feels like doing at any particular moment. Planning? Strategizing? Organizing? What's that? If he planned, strategized, organized, then absolutely refused to take into consideration any new information or changes in statistics, you'd heap praise on him for that? Planning, strategizing and organizing while changing course as circumstances require is what competent management would do. It is not what Trump is doing. He can't do course corrections because he has no set course to begin with. He does whatever he thinks is necessary for winning the news cycle, not what's good for the country. If Trump was competent and effective and doing what was good for the country then we'd have effective medical supply, testing and contact tracing strategies, but we don't. If we could perform millions of tests per day and do intensive contact tracing then we could reopen the country safely in just a few weeks, but we don't so we can't. Trump has resolutely refused to follow the advice of medical experts in these areas.
Several times, including just recently, ABC"s David Muir proclaimed that "PRESIDENT TRUMP REVERSES COURSE". Just like your USA Today headline uses the term "reversal" - it's an egregious lie. All he did was delay an action until a later date based on new information. Reverses course on what in particular? Only if you describe what you're talking about can it be discussed.
These news outlets do this to mislead casual swing voters, trying to imply that Trump flails about, doing 180's based on whims. You mean like this Trump same-day 180:
And Trump's reason for the switch? Because the task force is popular. Not because this effort chaired by Mike Pence is doing essential work leading and coordinating the virus response effort (or would if Trump would let them) but that it's popular. Everyone else thinks the task force should continue in operation because of the important work it is doing. Trump only liked the task force as long as it provided him daily TV opportunities to spread propaganda, lies and misinformation. The embarrassments he created for himself grew more and more severe, finally culminating in his bleach/disinfectant/light comments that forced him to cease the daily circus, the circus being Trump, not the other people who spoke. Once the task force ceased providing him a daily propaganda opportunity, he lost interest. Of course he wanted to cancel it, because he doesn't care about the country, only what gets him before the cameras.
As long as the swing voters aren't paying much attention, it works for them. But when those who ARE paying attention take note of this and point it out to others, then it tends to cancel out any gains the crooked news media made. It isn't clear what you're talking about.
Polls taken of news media approval tend to bear this out. It's like when Trump stopped travel from China back in January, and was immediately called a xenophobe, racist, bigot, etc. by many Democrats and their puppets in the news media. You're repeating a false complaint manufactured by Trump and being a willing dupe in the bargain. If you really think this true then try to track down news articles from right after Trump's January 31 announcement of the China travel restrictions that report what you're claiming. You'll have a hard time doing it because they don't exist.
Now those same people have REVERSED COURSE, (proper use of the term) and say Trump didn't act soon enough to slow or stop the spread of the virus. A LOT of swing voters noticed that course reversal. This is another false Trump manufactured complaint. Is there anything he says that you won't buy? Again, if you think it true then track down the news reports about it. --Percy
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5946 Joined: Member Rating: 5.5 |
Just waiting now for Trump and Pence to both come down with the virus and become intubiated. Then we'll have President Pelosi to try to pull our cookies out the fire. Finally a competent person in that position!
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jar Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
But owned by the same oligarchs.
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