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Author Topic:   Should we teach both evolution and religion in school?
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Message 1454 of 2073 (877230)
06-08-2020 6:49 PM
Reply to: Message 1453 by AZPaul3
06-08-2020 6:03 PM


Re: Comments From A Tribal Missionary To The "Other"
The ones listed above are the Nationally recognized flavors under the basic banner of "Baptist". There are even more regional and local labeled chapters of Club Baptist.
Each of the ones mentioned as well as the regional and local examples consider themselves as unique and either culturally, politically or dogmatically separate from all the other Chapters of Club Baptist. The differences though are not all doctrinal; political, cultural and ethnic difference also play a significant role.

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Message 1460 of 2073 (877256)
06-09-2020 3:12 PM
Reply to: Message 1457 by Phat
06-09-2020 2:43 PM


Re: Comments From A Tribal Missionary To The "Other"
Phat writes:
But I would be interested to know if YOU believe that you talk with GOD when you pray and/or meditate?
Again, since there is absolutely no wway I could ever know there is no reason to even speculate.
Phat writes:
Do you believe that He really doesn't care what you pray about but only what you do?
LOL. I pray about what I should do. That is nothing to know other than what I do and do not do.
Phat writes:
Do you ask yourself the same questions you ask me...namely how do you know its God?
No I don't ask that question since there is absolutely no way I could know if it was God.
And that is important Phat, it is the CONTENT that is significant and not the source.
Phat writes:
The major reason that I judge you to be divided from the club(s) I agree with is because you believe and think that simply by doing, any human can do the will of Jesus and in so answering the charge, become accepted....without surrendering or changing their basic fleshy behavior.
And once again you simply misrepresent everything I have ever posted or said. The second part of that sentence, " become accepted....without surrendering or changing their basic fleshy behavior" has no meaning and is just silly word salad. It is not anything worth even a moments thought, an absurdity.
Phat writes:
I always called you the Apostle To The Atheists so I can see a reason God would extend His Grace even further than believers.
So sad Phat. How many posts here at EvC have you seen where I preached to any atheists?
Think Phat.
Who is it I do preach to?

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jar
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Message 1462 of 2073 (877323)
06-12-2020 3:37 PM
Reply to: Message 1461 by Phat
06-12-2020 2:39 PM


Re: Comments From A Tribal Missionary To The "Other"
Phat writes:
But there is a way you can know...beyond a reasonable doubt.
And yet you never provide the method, model, mechanism, process or procedure that would allow someone to know.
Phat writes:
For me, the CONTENT and THE SOURCE are one and the same.
Word salad and demonstrably false.
Phat writes:
And this is where we disagree. You have thrown the source away. You have gone with evidence and trashed belief. You are free to believe whatever fool thing you want, but those of us whom you call foolish are now calling you foolish for your choice. Keep doing what Jesus said to do, however, and He likely will have mercy on you and those whom you have taught that it is ok to remain atheists and agnostics. As long as they too follow your behavior, you all should do fine and be accepted by the One whom you persecute.
Not even words salad; just silliness and misrepresentation.
Truly pitiful Phat.

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jar
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Message 1465 of 2073 (877602)
06-19-2020 7:35 AM
Reply to: Message 1463 by dad
06-19-2020 1:43 AM


Really no hatred of your beliefs.
dad writes:
Thanks for the blasphemy and hatred of other peoples beliefs.
It's not hatred of your beliefs, particularly Creationism. It is pity and I will admit a certain amount of humor that there are still people who would spout such nonsense or believe such silly stuff.

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jar
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Message 1467 of 2073 (877604)
06-19-2020 9:44 AM
Reply to: Message 1466 by Kleinman
06-19-2020 9:05 AM


Re: Really no hatred of your beliefs but a lot of stupidity
And so far you have still never posted anything showing that evolution does not happen just as taught in the schools.
Creationism is simply stupid.

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jar
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Message 1469 of 2073 (877606)
06-19-2020 10:20 AM
Reply to: Message 1468 by Kleinman
06-19-2020 10:16 AM


Re: Really no hatred of your beliefs but a lot of stupidity
LOL
And yet again, you fail to offer anything but nonsense.
The CCoI is the greatest threat the US and maybe the world faces.
It's truly pitiful and as a Christian, utterly embarrassing that so may Christians can be so totally divorced from all reality.

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jar
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Message 1488 of 2073 (877669)
06-19-2020 7:12 PM
Reply to: Message 1487 by Straggler
06-19-2020 7:04 PM


Re: Really no hatred of your beliefs but a lot of stupidity
LOL
The answer is simple;
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there.
He wasn't there again today,
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

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Message 1648 of 2073 (878198)
06-26-2020 8:25 PM
Reply to: Message 1647 by Kleinman
06-26-2020 7:58 PM


Re: A question about Tiktaalik
Kleinman writes:
yawn
Yay! Maybe the little kiddie learned a new word?

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jar
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Message 1734 of 2073 (878664)
07-02-2020 8:26 PM
Reply to: Message 1733 by dad
07-02-2020 8:08 PM


and it was dinos to birds idiot
dad writes:
I do not accept that nature was the same since no one really knows
You keep saying really really stupid stuff like that.
Of course everyone but the Christian Cult of Ignorance (use peek) knows.
In fact we have examples of people that were living while Adam and Family would still have been living if they had ever existed. Not just do we have the body to examine, we have the clothing and tools and shoes and what he ate and what things his clothes were made from and what pollin and plants he had with him, and they are all exactly the same as what we find today.
You really need to stop making us look quite so stupid; you are an embarrassment to all on Christianity.
Grow up.
Learn.
Stop believing the total crap that you have been saddled with by the Christian Cult of Ignorance and fantasy.
We have samples of materials from tens of thousands of years before the Garden of Eden would have existed and even the remains of cities from thousands of years before the Garden of Eden would have existed.
Grow up.
Stop behaving like a child.
Put all your childish nonsense aside.

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jar
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Message 1859 of 2073 (879141)
07-12-2020 9:54 AM
Reply to: Message 1858 by ringo
07-12-2020 9:45 AM


Re: If We Throw The ToE Away, What Will Replace It?
And it always amuses me when Christians, particularly "Biblical Christians" claim that they have read the Bible or are even capable of reading the Bible.

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jar
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Message 1970 of 2073 (889241)
11-11-2021 9:25 PM
Reply to: Message 1967 by Phat
11-11-2021 7:30 PM


Re: Response to Religious BS
Phat writes:
Third of all censoring freedom of ideas is manipulative and authoritarian!
Fortunately, no one here is even trying to censor freedom of ideas. The apologists, Carny Barkers and TV Evangelists are allowed to spout their silly spiel; churches are allowed to open their doors and pass the plates; religion is given special tax and zoning status and exempt from behaving like model citizenry. It's allowed to cause traffic jams and require police to manage traffic to pack and empty the pews.
Yet unfortunately there is still reality.
There is overwhelming evidence that the God marketed by much of Christianity is absolutely totally irrelevant, ineffective, and has no connection with the creations or reality itself. It may be like the God of Genesis 1, a creator that simply is apart and aloof with no interaction with what is created but overwhelming evidence that something like the God of Genesis 2&3 simply doesn't exist.
If there is NO evidence of any supernatural interaction with anything material, it simply doesn't matter whether it exists or is a figment of the imagination.

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jar
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Message 1972 of 2073 (889244)
11-12-2021 8:24 AM
Reply to: Message 1971 by Phat
11-12-2021 12:31 AM


Re: Response to Religious BS
Phat writes:
So with most all of. You, objective evidence is required before it matters. Got it.
Phat, if you claim to have hit the target you really need to show the holes.
It's fine to believe that you are a marksman or were abducted by UFO's or that there is a troll under the bridge.
The problem is when you confuse and conflate belief with knowledge.
It's not really that difficult and we've been down that garden path many times.
It really doesn't matter whether the troll really lives under the bridge if no one has ever seen the troll under the bridge and there is no scat to show that the troll was once there.
That's the way reality works. To claim you are a marksman you have to provide and get certified the holes in the paper.

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jar
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Message 1974 of 2073 (889250)
11-12-2021 11:29 AM
Reply to: Message 1973 by ringo
11-12-2021 11:20 AM


Re: Response to Religious BS
ringo writes:
Do you invite Zoroastrians to preach in your church?
They can but only in the basement with the lights off.

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Message 2002 of 2073 (889321)
11-16-2021 11:42 AM
Reply to: Message 2001 by Percy
11-16-2021 11:33 AM


Percy writes:
You're doing nothing more than baldly declaring over and over again that, in essence, if the Bible says it it's true.
Yet it is obvious from his posts that either he has never read any Bible or that he is simply incapable of actually reading with comprehension at all.
He is the Classic example of the Christian Cult of Ignorance.

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Message 2013 of 2073 (889376)
11-21-2021 1:14 PM


EWOLF is the classic example of the Christian Cult of Ignorance.
He shows no evidence he has EVER actually read any Bible, has even the slightest clue that there is no such thing as "The Bibleā„¢" or what Christ taught or what Christianity is supposed to be.
He is utterly and willfully ignorant and despicable and deplorable and proof positive that today's Biblical Christianity is a threat to all attempts to acknowledge reality.
He makes Christians and Christianity seem like excrement.

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