Did the Flood really happen?

In your first answer to my question you cited tree rings. Message 1608So I asked in Message 1609 why you would question tree ring growth.Do you have some reason to believe trees grew faster a few thousand years in the past?All of the *facts*, not beliefs, the facts about tree rings is they grow one per year. Do you have any facts, not beliefs, any real facts that dispute this process?I don't want to hear any of this "but, maybe" crap from you. If you say tree rings grew faster then show us your evidence.

You care. Message 1608 But you forgot that.So, again, you got any evidence that "the Nature" changed just enough to negate the damaging facts that make your religious dogmas delusional fantasies?

Great! Now we may be getting somewhere.How fast did trees "used" to grow? What evidence exists for how fast trees used to grow?I'm glad you care about this evidence. That means you know what that evidence is. What is it?

Sure we do. Trees of old grew at the same rate as trees today. No difference. None.Why should we think otherwise? Is that your evidence? Your errant book of fairy tales? Rejected.Got any real evidence that trees used to grow faster?No. No you don't because they didn't.

Your rote rejection of the evidence presented is ignored.YOU still have no evidence that natural processes differed yesterday to today.Your bible is not such evidence since its 3000 year old goat herder myths have no independent corroborating lines of evidence to sustain them.You have nothing but the childish antics of see no reality, hear no reality, acknowledge no reality. You are a poster child for religious nut jobs.

Message 1352I know. The logic escapes you. Regardless, the evidence is there and is quite compelling.You, on the other hand, have your goat herder fantasies which means you have nothing. These posts aren't for you. They are for the lurkers, the gallery, those who come read the arguments in these threads. They understand your goat book is fallacious and has the same efficacy as a Dick and Jane second grade reader. Yeah, I too got a whole big bunch a sympathy for you poor religious nut jobs and your colossally crazy sham soothsayers.

The evidence I presented is colored by reality. Facts not beliefs. Real evidence with a real reality color. Real facts and real logic. So shiny. Colorful. So pretty.A whole lot better, realistic and colorful than your bland BS-colored goat book.So do you have any other lines of evidence outside your goat book that natural laws change anywhere anytime?This is an open invitation for you to spout your delusions in other unique and borderline cognizant ways.

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What origin fables would those be? Certainly not the talking snake one? Maybe the wolf and the raven one?

Be specific. What origin of life fable? What origin of the universe fable?

What is it about each that makes them fables?

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Why do you say this is a belief and not a reality?

If the reality of nature was not the same in the past, when and how was it different?

"seemed"? Doesn't sound very reliable or scientific. Is there any evidence the Sumerians actually had lifespans of many centuries or did it only seem that way? Did they? Did they really? How do you know that? No, it wouldn't be. Makes you wonder if such things are real or just stories.