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Author Topic:   Should we teach both evolution and religion in school?
dad
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Message 1422 of 2073 (876943)
05-30-2020 5:02 PM
Reply to: Message 1420 by kjsimons
05-30-2020 3:13 PM


Re: bogus claim on the age of the earth being in the bible
Cheer leading empty blather.

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Message 1423 of 2073 (876944)
05-30-2020 5:04 PM
Reply to: Message 1418 by Coragyps
05-30-2020 1:11 PM


Re: bogus claim on the age of the earth being in the bible
Insults to God's word aside, no, I have no reason to ever deny evidence. I simply point out that your incessant splattering of your beliefs on to the evidence is not fact or science.

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Message 1424 of 2073 (876945)
05-30-2020 5:04 PM
Reply to: Message 1417 by ringo
05-30-2020 1:11 PM


Re: bogus claim on the age of the earth being in the bible
Just wait and see who silences opposing beliefs here. But since you were here a long time you already know. Why pretend?

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Message 1435 of 2073 (876981)
06-01-2020 3:29 AM
Reply to: Message 1431 by JonF
05-31-2020 8:21 PM


Re: bogus claim on the age of the earth being in the bible
quote:
Tree rings form because of..
Irrelevant. How anything forms now in this nature would only have relevance if you can prove this nature existed.
Finding other dead trees does not help if they also grew in that former nature.
Carbon ratios do not matter if they were made in the former nature.

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dad
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Message 1436 of 2073 (876982)
06-01-2020 3:31 AM
Reply to: Message 1430 by dwise1
05-31-2020 6:40 PM


Re: bogus claim on the age of the earth being in the bible
That is correct, NOW trees grow in a seasonal/yearly pattern. Now all we need is this present nature in the past so we could also say the same for rings in the far past!

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Message 1437 of 2073 (876983)
06-01-2020 3:32 AM
Reply to: Message 1426 by AZPaul3
05-30-2020 5:28 PM


Re: bogus claim on the age of the earth being in the bible
If all you offered was fact and knowledge rather than diss Scripture that may be the case.

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dad
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Message 1463 of 2073 (877589)
06-19-2020 1:43 AM
Reply to: Message 1439 by AZPaul3
06-01-2020 5:28 AM


Re: bogus claim on the age of the earth being in the bible
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Religion is the greatest evil ever to infect the mind of humanity. Your scripture is evil in thought and deed. It is lie masquerading as truth to enslave the mind.
There is no utility for humanity, there is no relevance to reality, there is no good for the world in your scripture or your religion. There is nothing but blood, pain and death in its words. Enslavement is its goal.
Your book is nothing but an excuse to subjugate the people, enrich your priests and to kill the minds of the children. Your own conception of your god is as a bloodthirsty monster with the entrails of the innocent still in its teeth.
Thanks for the blasphemy and hatred of other peoples beliefs. I don't think you have any worries about moderation here. That puke apparently is accepted in a science thread.

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dad
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Message 1504 of 2073 (877764)
06-21-2020 2:51 PM
Reply to: Message 1496 by Straggler
06-20-2020 3:48 AM


Re: Really no hatred of your beliefs but a lot of stupidity
quote:
Are you suggesting that kids should be taught that the existence of birds, mammals, reptiles etc. is a complete scientific mystery with no evidenced explanation?
Yes, of course. Anything else is fraud.

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dad
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Message 1508 of 2073 (877804)
06-22-2020 12:01 AM
Reply to: Message 1505 by AZPaul3
06-21-2020 3:38 PM


Re: Really no hatred of your beliefs but a lot of stupidity
Not sure why you spam a bunch of links. Try posting a sentence or paragraph from a link and debate that, using a link only as a source we can check.
By the way, I am aware of the created trait of being able to adapt and evolve, so evolution is not an issue at all. Where evolving started or stopped is an issue. The TOE has no clue what evolved from what, or when or why, and has piled error on false belief and baseless assumptions, while totally misunderstanding the fossil record, genetics and other basics.
Edited by dad, : No reason given.

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dad
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Message 1656 of 2073 (878276)
06-28-2020 3:59 PM
Reply to: Message 1465 by jar
06-19-2020 7:35 AM


Re: Really no hatred of your beliefs.
So you like creationism? Or do you hate it? I can say I hate 'evolutionism'. So why would a majority of people in a jurisiction not be able to have taught the beliefs they choose and like?
Edited by dad, : No reason given.

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dad
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Message 1657 of 2073 (878296)
06-28-2020 7:36 PM
Reply to: Message 1638 by Straggler
06-26-2020 3:45 PM


Re: If We Throw The ToE Away, What Will Replace It?
quote:
Tiktaalik was only discovered because evolutionary theory combined with geology predicted exactly where Tiktaalik should be found.
I suggest that this is nothing unique to your religion and belief set (you think of as science).
I would also expect that some creatures in the migration out from Eden would rapidly evolve and adapt as needed. If a fish encountered areas that were swampy or had land and water, it might need to adapt to land in order to feed and survive. No big deal. That does not require your imaginary ages, or a godless origin.

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dad
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Message 1658 of 2073 (878297)
06-28-2020 7:41 PM
Reply to: Message 1614 by ringo
06-25-2020 3:39 PM


Re: If We Throw The ToE Away, What Will Replace It?
quote:
No, science does not deal in proofs.
Neither do politicians or con men selling bridges they don't own. Nothing to brag about.

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Message 1675 of 2073 (878385)
06-29-2020 3:33 PM
Reply to: Message 1672 by ringo
06-29-2020 11:22 AM


Re: If We Throw The ToE Away, What Will Replace It?
Real science is based on evidence. We can test and repeat and observe and etc. That is proof in a sense. There is no proof in any sense whatsoever for the whopper fables of origin so called sciences.
If you knew the limits of science and what it is really all about you would know that.

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Message 1676 of 2073 (878388)
06-29-2020 3:37 PM
Reply to: Message 1674 by Kleinman
06-29-2020 12:53 PM


Re: A question about Tiktaalik
quote:
However, with this kind of vague understanding of evolution, you won't understand when and why more than a single selection pressure has to be used to achieve a successful treatment.
Who really cares about selection pressure when it comes to what was created or not? Who cares about why creatures needed to adapt and evolve after being created? If there was a creation, then who could really know what was here already, and what all came as a result of evolving from that starting point?
If fish needed to adapt to land in the far past, well, big deal. If God created some fishy like thingies that were suited to both, that is fine also. Who really knows?

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Message 1680 of 2073 (878426)
06-30-2020 1:15 AM
Reply to: Message 1678 by ringo
06-29-2020 4:14 PM


Re: If We Throw The ToE Away, What Will Replace It?
Keep blowing smoke. Too bad you haven't enough smoke to cover your busted beliefs that you thought were sciencey.

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