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Message 1632 of 2370 (877766)
06-21-2020 2:56 PM
Reply to: Message 1623 by ringo
06-19-2020 10:32 AM


Re: Just as the fact that there is no "Bible" ...
And Aesop gets to define fables. I am more interested in truth and actual meanings. Belief based conclusion are not knowledge or real science, regardless of what some cultish, deluded, self aggrandizing, clueless eggheads may think, in my humble opinion.

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Message 1635 of 2370 (877802)
06-21-2020 11:57 PM
Reply to: Message 1633 by AZPaul3
06-21-2020 7:29 PM


Re: Layers build slowly over time ... lots of time
I care how fast trees used to grow, and care about what evidence exists for how fast trees grew. Too bad you have no evidence that nature was either the same or not though, eh? You therefore have nothing we could care about.

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Message 1636 of 2370 (877803)
06-21-2020 11:58 PM
Reply to: Message 1634 by ringo
06-21-2020 9:36 PM


Re: Just as the fact that there is no "Bible" ...
My position is that science does not know. If someone claims they do know in the name of science we all had better scoff.

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dad
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Message 1639 of 2370 (878280)
06-28-2020 4:06 PM
Reply to: Message 1637 by AZPaul3
06-22-2020 1:15 AM


Re: Layers build slowly over time ... lots of time
As far as science is concerned, they do not know how fast tree used to grow. If you are aware of some scientific study on the matter I may have missed, feel free to post it.
As far as the bible record of the deep past on earth goes, trees apparently did grow super fast, and unlike anything we observe today.

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dad
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Message 1640 of 2370 (878281)
06-28-2020 4:08 PM
Reply to: Message 1638 by ringo
06-22-2020 10:41 AM


Re: Just as the fact that there is no "Bible" ...
If science doesn't know, it doesn't know and should shut up about it. If you claim it does then you should post about it.

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Message 1642 of 2370 (878294)
06-28-2020 7:25 PM
Reply to: Message 1641 by DrJones*
06-28-2020 5:25 PM


Re: Layers build slowly over time ... lots of time
Well, we have a garden planted in creation week. Then we have man eating fruit from trees a week later! That is fast indeed. In another instance we see that birds were sent from the ark, and returned because there were no trees and plants. A week later, lo and behold, a bird returned with a fresh tree leaf in it's beak.
In the bible, the future is the key to the past (not the present, as science assumes). That is because the future is very much like the past in many ways. We also see trees in the future that display fast growth. The trees bear fruit every single month! They also bear a different type of fruit on the same tree every month.
Edited by dad, : No reason given.

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Message 1645 of 2370 (878332)
06-29-2020 2:33 AM
Reply to: Message 1643 by AZPaul3
06-28-2020 8:47 PM


Re: Layers build slowly over time ... lots of time
You forgot to cite evidence trees grew at the same rate. Funny, that. No one cares what you believe, or why you believe. The question is not 'why should science believe...'. The question is what does science know. You should admit you do not know at what rates trees used to grow.

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Message 1646 of 2370 (878333)
06-29-2020 2:34 AM
Reply to: Message 1644 by JonF
06-28-2020 9:22 PM


Re: Layers build slowly over time ... lots of time
Except I gave two examples in post 1642.

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Message 1650 of 2370 (878380)
06-29-2020 3:27 PM
Reply to: Message 1647 by AZPaul3
06-29-2020 9:25 AM


Re: Layers build slowly over time ... lots of time
quote:
YOU still have no evidence that natural processes differed yesterday to today.
YOU still have no evidence that natural processes are the same yesterday to today.
quote:
Your bible is not..
I do not care what you think or believe about God or His word. History is a colossal sympathy of fulfilled prophesy. I do not need your affirmation.

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dad
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Message 1651 of 2370 (878381)
06-29-2020 3:28 PM
Reply to: Message 1648 by ringo
06-29-2020 12:01 PM


Re: Just as the fact that there is no "Bible" ...
If you claim you did post evidence then give the link. Computers have nothing to do with origins sciences.

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dad
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Message 1652 of 2370 (878383)
06-29-2020 3:30 PM
Reply to: Message 1649 by ringo
06-29-2020 12:05 PM


Re: Layers build slowly over time ... lots of time
The question I replied to was in regards to whether the bible referred to the growth rates of trees in the past. No one said science could or should be able to verify it either way. Science is far far too small and weak and handicapped to do so.

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dad
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Message 1658 of 2370 (878427)
06-30-2020 1:18 AM
Reply to: Message 1653 by ringo
06-29-2020 3:50 PM


Re: Just as the fact that there is no "Bible" ...
So you did not post evidence, more bluster. Whatever. I march to the beat of a different drummer, thanks.

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dad
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Message 1659 of 2370 (878428)
06-30-2020 1:19 AM
Reply to: Message 1656 by Tanypteryx
06-29-2020 7:10 PM


Re: Layers build slowly over time ... lots of time
Since that guy at least professes to believe in God, and dislikes many evil things, I guess he is on your hate list. Not my problem.

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Message 1660 of 2370 (878429)
06-30-2020 1:20 AM
Reply to: Message 1655 by JonF
06-29-2020 5:32 PM


Re: Layers build slowly over time ... lots of time
You have cllaims that are empty and based on beliefs alone. I know. I have your number.

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Message 1661 of 2370 (878430)
06-30-2020 1:21 AM
Reply to: Message 1654 by ringo
06-29-2020 3:52 PM


Re: Layers build slowly over time ... lots of time
I am not here to support or make claims so much as to hold up your belief based claims that have fraudulently been labelled as science.

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