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dad Member (Idle past 1359 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
My position is that science does not know. If someone claims they do know in the name of science we all had better scoff.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8536 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
I care how fast trees used to grow, and care about what evidence exists for how fast trees grew. Great! Now we may be getting somewhere. How fast did trees "used" to grow? What evidence exists for how fast trees used to grow? I'm glad you care about this evidence. That means you know what that evidence is. What is it?Factio Republicana delenda est.
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
dad writes:
If science doesn't know, who does? If science doesn't know, how did it produce the computer you're looking at? My position is that science does not know."I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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dad Member (Idle past 1359 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
As far as science is concerned, they do not know how fast tree used to grow. If you are aware of some scientific study on the matter I may have missed, feel free to post it.
As far as the bible record of the deep past on earth goes, trees apparently did grow super fast, and unlike anything we observe today.
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dad Member (Idle past 1359 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
If science doesn't know, it doesn't know and should shut up about it. If you claim it does then you should post about it.
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2285 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 8.3 |
trees apparently did grow super fast
where does it say that in the bible?
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dad Member (Idle past 1359 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
Well, we have a garden planted in creation week. Then we have man eating fruit from trees a week later! That is fast indeed. In another instance we see that birds were sent from the ark, and returned because there were no trees and plants. A week later, lo and behold, a bird returned with a fresh tree leaf in it's beak.
In the bible, the future is the key to the past (not the present, as science assumes). That is because the future is very much like the past in many ways. We also see trees in the future that display fast growth. The trees bear fruit every single month! They also bear a different type of fruit on the same tree every month. Edited by dad, : No reason given.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8536 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
As far as science is concerned, they do not know how fast tree used to grow. Sure we do. Trees of old grew at the same rate as trees today. No difference. None. Why should we think otherwise?
As far as the bible record of the deep past on earth goes, trees apparently did grow super fast, and unlike anything we observe today. Is that your evidence? Your errant book of fairy tales? Rejected. Got any real evidence that trees used to grow faster? No. No you don't because they didn't.Factio Republicana delenda est.
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JonF Member (Idle past 190 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Even the Bible doesn't support that.
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dad Member (Idle past 1359 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
You forgot to cite evidence trees grew at the same rate. Funny, that. No one cares what you believe, or why you believe. The question is not 'why should science believe...'. The question is what does science know. You should admit you do not know at what rates trees used to grow.
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dad Member (Idle past 1359 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
Except I gave two examples in post 1642.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8536 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0
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Your rote rejection of the evidence presented is ignored.
YOU still have no evidence that natural processes differed yesterday to today. Your bible is not such evidence since its 3000 year old goat herder myths have no independent corroborating lines of evidence to sustain them. You have nothing but the childish antics of see no reality, hear no reality, acknowledge no reality. You are a poster child for religious nut jobs. Factio Republicana delenda est.
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
dad writes:
Did you notice the word "if"? I said IF science doesn't know.... If science doesn't know, it doesn't know and should shut up about it. It does.
dad writes:
I did:
If you claim it does then you should post about it.quote: Did scientists invent computers by using the same methods that you claim don't work? Or did creationists invent computers by reading the Bible? "I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
dad writes:
Those examples can not be verified empirically - like the examples of talking bears. Therefore they can not be considered evidence. Except I gave two examples in post 1642."I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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dad Member (Idle past 1359 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
quote:YOU still have no evidence that natural processes are the same yesterday to today. quote:I do not care what you think or believe about God or His word. History is a colossal sympathy of fulfilled prophesy. I do not need your affirmation.
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