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Author Topic:   Did the Flood really happen?
dad
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Message 1662 of 2370 (878431)
06-30-2020 1:25 AM
Reply to: Message 1657 by AZPaul3
06-29-2020 8:43 PM


Re: Layers build slowly over time ... lots of time
That is rich. You claim that because you can't see anything else but your beliefs colouring evidence, that they must be that color!
I won't bother responding to the usual blasphemy and hatred spam bits of your post.

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Message 1664 of 2370 (878434)
06-30-2020 2:46 AM
Reply to: Message 1663 by AZPaul3
06-30-2020 1:48 AM


Re: Layers build slowly over time ... lots of time
quote:
The evidence I presented is colored by reality.
All religions say that. Ho hum.
quote:
Facts not beliefs
That is why you must stop offering beliefs as facts or science.
quote:
A whole lot better, realistic and colorful than your bland BS-colored goat book.
Since you insist in engaging in name calling for other beliefs, I guess I should indulge. Satan is often pictured as a goat. Even in the bible the sheep are separated from the goats. So called science then, is the goat book.
quote:
So do you have any other lines of evidence outside your goat book that natural laws change anywhere anytime?
The science models of the past are based on the belief nature was the same. Do you have any evidence outside your goat book of fables and beliefs from hell that nature was the same? Those wishing to elevate their goat book to science must have real evidence and be able to produce it here.
Work on that.

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Message 1669 of 2370 (878524)
07-01-2020 2:46 AM
Reply to: Message 1666 by ringo
06-30-2020 5:34 PM


Re: Layers build slowly over time ... lots of time
Rather than an intelligent reply we get blather about 'oh, I am the only one who knows what science really is, but I can't post it'. Seriously?

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dad
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Message 1670 of 2370 (878525)
07-01-2020 2:47 AM
Reply to: Message 1667 by ringo
06-30-2020 5:37 PM


Re: Just as the fact that there is no "Bible" ...
Computers are not evidence stellar evolution in deep space is valid. Focus. Nor are computers evidence a worldwide flood never happened. Etc.

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Message 1674 of 2370 (878555)
07-01-2020 1:35 PM
Reply to: Message 1671 by ringo
07-01-2020 10:58 AM


Re: Just as the fact that there is no "Bible" ...
Of course scientists dealing in the real world usually know what they are doing (even if in some cases it is evil as hell)
The so called sciences dealing in origins stories have no practical application in the real world though.

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Message 1675 of 2370 (878556)
07-01-2020 1:36 PM
Reply to: Message 1672 by ringo
07-01-2020 11:03 AM


Re: Layers build slowly over time ... lots of time
When you know something you should be able to post it rather than brag you could post it.

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dad
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Message 1676 of 2370 (878557)
07-01-2020 1:38 PM
Reply to: Message 1673 by ringo
07-01-2020 11:06 AM


Re: Just as the fact that there is no "Bible" ...
If you offer computers or anything else in this world as evidence that so called science that deals in origins fables knows what it is talking about, you need to show the connection.

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dad
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Message 1681 of 2370 (878582)
07-02-2020 1:46 AM
Reply to: Message 1679 by ringo
07-01-2020 3:17 PM


Re: Just as the fact that there is no "Bible" ...
No they don't find ages of rocks. Finding oil doesn't involve that as much as you thought it did.

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dad
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Message 1682 of 2370 (878583)
07-02-2020 1:48 AM
Reply to: Message 1677 by ringo
07-01-2020 3:12 PM


Re: Just as the fact that there is no "Bible" ...
Planes do not fly to the edges of the universe. Really. Planes big or small, or toy planes have zero to do with origin arguments. Your Buzz LightYear imagination is showing.

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dad
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Message 1683 of 2370 (878584)
07-02-2020 1:49 AM
Reply to: Message 1673 by ringo
07-01-2020 11:06 AM


Re: Just as the fact that there is no "Bible" ...
Origin claims get no results. Fables are like that.

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dad
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Message 1684 of 2370 (878585)
07-02-2020 1:49 AM
Reply to: Message 1680 by AZPaul3
07-01-2020 6:36 PM


Re: Just as the fact that there is no "Bible" ...
The stories science tells about the origins of life and the universe etc. Those ones.

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dad
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Message 1685 of 2370 (878586)
07-02-2020 1:51 AM
Reply to: Message 1678 by ringo
07-01-2020 3:15 PM


Re: Layers build slowly over time ... lots of time
You can say you know more than God if you like...for all it's worth. The thing is you need to post it, not talk big.

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dad
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Message 1691 of 2370 (878624)
07-02-2020 12:42 PM
Reply to: Message 1686 by AZPaul3
07-02-2020 3:42 AM


Re: Just as the fact that there is no "Bible" ...
TOE, and the BB.

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dad
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Message 1692 of 2370 (878627)
07-02-2020 12:49 PM
Reply to: Message 1687 by ringo
07-02-2020 10:17 AM


KT layer versus 4500 years ago
Well, the topic here is Geology and the Flood. One of the key articles of debate on this issue is the dates. Science says 65 or seventy million years ago (If the KT was near the flood time) and Scripture and Jewish tradition say something closer to 4500 years ago.
The main reason science uses old ages is because of radioactive decay dating. The main reason they do this is because of a belief that laws and forces/nature were always the same on earth. (not talking about the far universe here). So, prove (evidence solidly) that it was?
Otherwise, why would we not assume much of the ratios we see were part of creation, and that the former nature also affected ratios? Why must we believe your positive claim?

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dad
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Message 1693 of 2370 (878629)
07-02-2020 12:53 PM
Reply to: Message 1690 by ringo
07-02-2020 10:30 AM


Re: Just as the fact that there is no "Bible" ...
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How is it that geologists get it right when you need fuel but wrong when they disagree with you?
Because they do not disagree with me about the actual reasons they find oil. The past left us patterns of layers laid down. We have discovered that in certain areas and layers oil and certain things tend to be more likely. It doesn't matter about what phantom imaginary ages people imagine that layers were formed in! Whether a layer was put down 5500 years ago in the former nature, or whether it was put down (insert belief based ages based on a same nature in the past here). The result is the same we would tend to see oil in certain layers.
That's why.

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