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dad Member (Idle past 1365 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
My claim IS that science has no evidence for it's claims and basis for the claims. I do have evidence for that, and your failure to produce anything but beliefs add to the evidence.
I accept the bible and historical claims of what life was like and have no reason not to. Those are not my claims. In a science forum I wish to look at the claims put forward by science, and particularly about ages and origins. If I were to defend bible claims it would not be in a science forum, since science is far too weak and small and inadequate to deal with the issues. Don't worry about other beliefs here just focus on defending your own. Edited by dad, : No reason given.
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Taq Member Posts: 10081 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
dad writes: My claim IS that science has no evidence for it's claims and basis for the claims. Your claim is that you will invent fantasies in order to avoid evidence.
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 363 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
dad writes:
Is that why you have to contrive some exceptional recombination scenario to deal with the 3e9 replications for each evolutionary step to explain fish evolving into mammals? It's the multiplication rule Taq. And that is the reality you refuse to accept.
My claim IS that science has no evidence for it's claims and basis for the claims.Taq writes: Your claim is that you will invent fantasies in order to avoid evidence.
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Taq Member Posts: 10081 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
Kleinman writes: Is that why you have to contrive some exceptional recombination scenario to deal with the 3e9 replications for each evolutionary step to explain fish evolving into mammals? It's the multiplication rule Taq. Do you have mental problems?
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 363 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
Kleinman writes:
None when it comes to the mathematics of evolution. But I know these people that when they look at fossils, they have these delusions that they are seeing fish evolving into mammals. These people really need help, combination therapy is called for, mathematical and empirical evidence.
Is that why you have to contrive some exceptional recombination scenario to deal with the 3e9 replications for each evolutionary step to explain fish evolving into mammals? It's the multiplication rule Taq.Taq writes: Do you have mental problems?
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Kleinman writes:
And yet they are the ones that can use their science for practical purposes and you can't. It is you and the rest of your fish evolve into mammals clique that has no real evidence"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
dad writes:
You haben't explained the computers yet. Who made them? Too bad you haven't enough smoke to cover your busted beliefs that you thought were sciencey."I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
dad writes:
Science produced the computer you're looking at. My claim IS that science has no evidence for it's claims and basis for the claims."I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 363 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
dad writes:
I think what dad is talking about is that you have no evidence for your theory of evolution. Of course, if you think that the computer he is looking at evolved from fingers is evidence explains why they are called digital computers. Does that mean watches evolved from dogs because there are watchdogs? Did chestnuts evolve from horses or did horses evolve from chestnuts? What came first, the chestnut or the horse. Oh, what does it matter, they both evolved and now we both horse-chestnuts and chestnut horses. The theory of evolution explains so much!
My claim IS that science has no evidence for it's claims and basis for the claims.ringo writes: Science produced the computer you're looking at.
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 363 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
Kleinman writes:
Wrong on that one ringo. I use my mathematics when treating drug-resistant infection (and they are all too common thanks to the fish evolve into mammal clique). And the principle is quite simple. Don't use single-drug therapy when there is a high risk for selecting resistant variants. Understand rubberband?
It is you and the rest of your fish evolve into mammals clique that has no real evidenceringo writes: And yet they are the ones that can use their science for practical purposes and you can't.
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Straggler Member (Idle past 93 days) Posts: 10333 From: London England Joined: |
You keep referring to the fish evolve into mammal clique. But it’s nor a clique is it? It’s nearly every biologist, indeed scientist, on the planet that you are claiming superior knowledge to.
You still have no alternative explanation for the origin of species. And it’s not like your model has led to the discovery of new species or indeed the discovery of anything of note at all. Let us know when the Nobel prize arrives... Edited by Straggler, : No reason given.
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 363 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
Straggler writes:
clique You keep referring to the fish evolve into mammal clique. But it’s nor a clique is it? It’s nearly every biologist, indeed scientist, on the planet that you are claiming superior knowledge to./kl—k,klik/ noun a small group of people, with shared interests or other features in common, who spend time together and do not readily allow others to join them. "the old-school clique" There was a time when nearly every scientist said the earth was flat. And why hasn't your clique explained the Kishony and Lenski experiments? You have had over 30 years to figure out the Lenski experiment. What is taking so long?
Straggler writes:
I've given the correct explanation for DNA evolution, isn't that enough. After all, it explains how drug-resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail. You in the fish evolve into mammal clique are awfully demanding since you have had over a century to correctly explain the mathematics of Darwinian evolution, but haven't done it. What's your excuse?
You still have no alternative explanation for the origin of species. And it’s not like your model has led to the discovery of new species or indeed the discovery of anything of note at all.Straggler writes:
You in the fish evolve into mammals clique are really slow. I already told you that Edward Tatum already got the Nobel Prize. I just put the mathematics to his idea. Your clique could have done it but I guess math is not emphasized in your discipline.
Let us know when the Nobel prize arrives...
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Kleinman writes:
I don't think anybody believes you on that. I use my mathematics when treating drug-resistant infection"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Kleinman writes:
I think computers were designed using the same scientific principles used to formulate the Theory of Evolution. They're brothers. You can't have one without the other. Of course, if you think that the computer he is looking at evolved from fingers is evidence explains why they are called digital computers."I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 363 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
Kleinman writes:
It doesn't surprise me when members of fish evolve into mammals clique say that. After all, you think that increasing the number of selection pressures on a population accelerates evolution when what it really does is increase the probability that you will drive the population to extinction. And even if it doesn't drive the population to extinction, it impairs the DNA evolutionary process as well demonstrated by the use of combination therapy to treat hiv.
I use my mathematics when treating drug-resistant infectionringo writes: I don't think anybody believes you on that.
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