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ringo
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Message 1666 of 2370 (878496)
06-30-2020 5:34 PM
Reply to: Message 1661 by dad
06-30-2020 1:21 AM


Re: Layers build slowly over time ... lots of time
dad writes:

I am not here to support or make claims so much as to hold up your belief based claims that have fraudulently been labelled as science.


First you'll have to learn what science is. You're a long way from anybody taking your opinions seriously.

"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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ringo
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Message 1667 of 2370 (878497)
06-30-2020 5:37 PM
Reply to: Message 1658 by dad
06-30-2020 1:18 AM


Re: Just as the fact that there is no "Bible™" ...
dad writes:

So you did not post evidence,


Results are evidence. Computers are evidence thst science gets results.

"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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Phat
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Message 1668 of 2370 (878516)
06-30-2020 8:43 PM
Reply to: Message 1667 by ringo
06-30-2020 5:37 PM


Re: Just as the fact that there is no "Bible™" ...
Computers are evidence that science gets results.
Computers do nothing but quantify numbers into a replicable value. If a value created by a machine counts as evidence, why not a philosophical value involving spoken words?

Edited by Phat, : No reason given.


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dad
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Message 1669 of 2370 (878524)
07-01-2020 2:46 AM
Reply to: Message 1666 by ringo
06-30-2020 5:34 PM


Re: Layers build slowly over time ... lots of time
Rather than an intelligent reply we get blather about 'oh, I am the only one who knows what science really is, but I can't post it'. Seriously?

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dad
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Message 1670 of 2370 (878525)
07-01-2020 2:47 AM
Reply to: Message 1667 by ringo
06-30-2020 5:37 PM


Re: Just as the fact that there is no "Bible™" ...
Computers are not evidence stellar evolution in deep space is valid. Focus. Nor are computers evidence a worldwide flood never happened. Etc.

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ringo
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Message 1671 of 2370 (878541)
07-01-2020 10:58 AM
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07-01-2020 2:47 AM


Re: Just as the fact that there is no "Bible™" ...
dad writes:

Computers are not evidence stellar evolution in deep space is valid.


I'll type slowly so you can keep up: Computers... are... evidence... that... scientists... know... what... they're... doing.

When you get on an airplane, do you go up to the cockpit and tell the pilot he's flying all wrong? The rest of us take his thousands of hours of successful flying as evidence that he knows what he's doing.


"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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ringo
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Message 1672 of 2370 (878542)
07-01-2020 11:03 AM
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07-01-2020 2:46 AM


Re: Layers build slowly over time ... lots of time
dad writes:

Rather than an intelligent reply we get blather about 'oh, I am the only one who knows what science really is, but I can't post it'.


Your reading comprehension is off. I have never said that I am the only one who knows anything about science. I seldom claim to know anything at all.

As the old joke goes, I don't have to run faster than the bear. I only have to run faster than YOU.

I only have to know more about science than YOU, which is not much of a feat.


"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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ringo
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Message 1673 of 2370 (878543)
07-01-2020 11:06 AM
Reply to: Message 1668 by Phat
06-30-2020 8:43 PM


Re: Just as the fact that there is no "Bible™" ...
Phat writes:

Computers do nothing but quantify numbers into a replicable value. If a value created by a machine counts as evidence, why not a philosophical value involving spoken words?


It doesn't matter what computers do. I could have used a space shuttle as an example, or a heart pacemaker. The point is that science gets RESULTS.


"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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dad
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Message 1674 of 2370 (878555)
07-01-2020 1:35 PM
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07-01-2020 10:58 AM


Re: Just as the fact that there is no "Bible™" ...
Of course scientists dealing in the real world usually know what they are doing (even if in some cases it is evil as hell)
The so called sciences dealing in origins stories have no practical application in the real world though.

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Message 1675 of 2370 (878556)
07-01-2020 1:36 PM
Reply to: Message 1672 by ringo
07-01-2020 11:03 AM


Re: Layers build slowly over time ... lots of time
When you know something you should be able to post it rather than brag you could post it.

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dad
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Message 1676 of 2370 (878557)
07-01-2020 1:38 PM
Reply to: Message 1673 by ringo
07-01-2020 11:06 AM


Re: Just as the fact that there is no "Bible™" ...
If you offer computers or anything else in this world as evidence that so called science that deals in origins fables knows what it is talking about, you need to show the connection.

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ringo
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Message 1677 of 2370 (878561)
07-01-2020 3:12 PM
Reply to: Message 1676 by dad
07-01-2020 1:38 PM


Re: Just as the fact that there is no "Bible™" ...
dad writes:

If you offer computers or anything else in this world as evidence that so called science that deals in origins fables knows what it is talking about, you need to show the connection.


The connection is that they are using the same methods. You might as well say that the pilot who is flying the DC-9 knows what he's doing but the pilot who is flying the 727 doesn't - even though they are doing the same thing.

You're seeing a distinction where there is none. And if you think there is a distinction, once again YOU are the one who needs to provide evidence.


"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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ringo
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Message 1678 of 2370 (878562)
07-01-2020 3:15 PM
Reply to: Message 1675 by dad
07-01-2020 1:36 PM


Re: Layers build slowly over time ... lots of time
dad writes:

When you know something you should be able to post it rather than brag you could post it.


Read what I wrote. I didn't say I knew anything. I said I know more than you.

"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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ringo
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Message 1679 of 2370 (878563)
07-01-2020 3:17 PM
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07-01-2020 1:35 PM


Re: Just as the fact that there is no "Bible™" ...
dad writes:

The so called sciences dealing in origins stories have no practical application in the real world though.


That's where you're wrong. Geologists find oil in the real world and geologists find the true ages of rocks.

"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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AZPaul3
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Message 1680 of 2370 (878572)
07-01-2020 6:36 PM
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07-01-2020 1:38 PM


Re: Just as the fact that there is no "Bible™" ...
If you offer computers or anything else in this world as evidence that so called science that deals in origins fables knows ...

What origin fables would those be? Certainly not the talking snake one? Maybe the wolf and the raven one?


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