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ringo
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Message 57 of 103 (877641)
06-19-2020 12:37 PM 		Reply to: Message 55 by Phat
06-19-2020 12:20 PM

Re: Chemtrails
Phat writes:
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Only one of them does pay out. And its not a matter of paying out...its a matter of Creating what we know as reality. God created all seen and unseen through Jesus Christ. Jesus is alive today. This *is* reality.
It's mindless blather.
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Phat writes:
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God does not hide from us. We hide(or try to hide) from God.
Bullshit. You've said many times that God wants us to believe in Him by faith and not by evidence. Holding back the evidence is hiding.
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Phat writes:
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All apologists are delusional. Which is false.
Show us that it's false.
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Phat writes:
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Thus, reasoning need not involve rejection of apologetics.
I didn't say it "needs to". I said it usually does.
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Phat writes:
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We DO have a way to prove this provided you are willing to give up everything you thought was truth and place it on the altar.
That's what I'm challenging YOU to do.
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You seem to forget that I've already done that. I gave up the same beliefs that you have.
"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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ringo
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Message 58 of 103 (877643)
06-19-2020 12:41 PM 		Reply to: Message 56 by Phat
06-19-2020 12:28 PM

Re: Quid Pro Quo, Dr. ringo
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Why did we kill him?
According to the story, the Jews didn't like Him claiming to be God.
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What does that have to do with my point? The sensible plan would have been for God to just forgive us.
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Genesis 22:1-19
Again, what's your point?
"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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ringo
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Message 62 of 103 (877963)
06-23-2020 7:47 PM 		Reply to: Message 59 by Trump won
06-23-2020 2:53 PM

a Servant of Christ writes:
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hey these guys want evidence
they don't want the our lady of Guadalupe image
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or the shroud of turin
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or bodies not decomposing
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or suns dancing in the sky
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they definitely don't want weeping paintings and statues
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apparitions appearing to young children
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they don't want eucharists bleeding in cups
Too bad Faith isn't around. She'd tell you how evil those Cathomolics is. It would make a good cage match.
"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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ringo
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Message 65 of 103 (877983)
06-24-2020 10:10 AM 		Reply to: Message 63 by Trump won
06-24-2020 6:39 AM

a Servant of Christ writes:
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prots are just as lost as atheists in many ways
It's funny (ha ha) how you brand everybody who disagrees with you as an "atheist".
"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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ringo
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Message 74 of 103 (878547)
07-01-2020 11:26 AM 		Reply to: Message 66 by Phat
07-01-2020 4:01 AM

Re: All Things That Are Hidden Will Be Revealed.
Phat writes:
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ringo writes:
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Holding back the evidence is hiding.
You call it hiding.
It is hiding, by definition, literally.
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If you hide behind the curtains when the Jehovah's Witnesses knock on your door, you are withholding evidence of your presence.
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What's wrong with you lately? Lose your dictionary?
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Phat writes:
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Perhaps He calls it not conforming to (or bowing to) YOUR standards.
Even God doesn't get to have His own "standards" of what words mean. They're OUR words. WE decide what they mean.
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Phat writes:
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Think about it.
I HAVE thought about it. You'd do well to do some thinking of your own instead of assuming that nobody but those damned apologists have ever thought about anything.
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Phat writes:
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The supposed Creator of all seen and unseen wont provide you with evidence of His existence.
Why not?
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WHY NOT, for heaven's sake? What has He got to lose?
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Phat writes:
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Yet you wont take a leap of faith.
Stop lying about me. I took the same leap of faith as you did, as I have told you many times.
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Phat writes:
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You claim He hides from you. He may claim you hide from Him.
Now that is REALLY stupid. How could I possibly hide from the creator of all that is seen and unseen? You've made up such a hopelessly weak and pathetic god.
"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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ringo
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Message 82 of 103 (878615)
07-02-2020 11:02 AM 		Reply to: Message 80 by Phat
07-02-2020 10:11 AM

Re: All Things That Are Hidden Will Be Revealed.
Phat writes:
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You believe that God should bee inclusive. That Heaven, if Heaven exists should be open for everyone...without any conditions.
See the prodigal son.
"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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ringo
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Message 95 of 103 (878701)
07-03-2020 10:42 AM 		Reply to: Message 89 by Trump won
07-03-2020 5:16 AM

a Servant of Christ writes:
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jesus walked on water in four synoptic gospels.
If you check your facts, you might find that the incident is not mentioned by Luke.
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a Servant of Christ writes:
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if you saw a man walking on water, would you believe your eyes?
They did it on Just For Laughs Gags.
"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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ringo
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Message 99 of 103 (878724)
07-03-2020 3:38 PM 		Reply to: Message 96 by Trump won
07-03-2020 1:42 PM

a Servant of Christ writes:
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What's the difference between Tangle, AzPaul3, and ringo.
I'm the good-looking one.
"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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