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AZPaul3
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Message 151 of 163 (878558)
07-01-2020 1:39 PM
Reply to: Message 150 by ringo
07-01-2020 11:39 AM


Re: AZ
Yeah, funny.

But truly, one of the greatest feelings of happy I have ever experienced was when I was sitting in my chair reading my book and my daughter was sprawled out on the floor reading her book when she started softly humming a happy little tune. All the world’s cares melted away and life was never more beautiful. Then I realized the tune was Justin Bieber and the spell broke.


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Message 152 of 163 (878568)
07-01-2020 4:31 PM
Reply to: Message 149 by AZPaul3
06-29-2020 11:52 PM


Re: AZ
Hi AZ,

AZ writes:

We also have equally fantastical stories from those known to be mentally delusional.

Let me try one more story on you and get your take on it.

I retired from working for one of the largest construction companies in the Cayman Islands in October of 2003 and bought a house in the US. I made a down payment and took out a mortgage for $90,000. I had enough set back I could take care of about half of that mortgage on hand. The rest I had no idea where it would come from. My funds to live off of would take care of our normal expenses but not enough to take care of the mortgage also.

We moved into our house December 27, 2003. I wanted to do a lot of work on the house and began those chores. In November of 2004 Hurricane Ivan came through the Cayman's and destroyed all the work on the first floor of the condo's and apartment as well as houses I had provided cabinets for in the past 14 years. There was 7 feet of water in them ruining the cabinets. My old boss wanted me to come down and replace the damaged cabinets and I agreed to do so. I went down on March 15, of 2005 I went by the job site and realized I was about 6 weeks early. I then went on to the parsonage I had built with a prophets chamber which I would stay in while I did the work.

I had not been at the parsonage for 30 minutes before the phone rang and the pastors wife said it is for you. Let me back up a little with my story and tell you what I told my wife to prepare for as I was making a promise to God. I told her that if God would provide the money to pay off our mortgage on the house extra to what I would make doing the replacement for my old boss when I got back to the state's we would spend the rest of our lives helping churches that could not afford a pastor's salary and a place to live.

Back to the island and the phone call. I answered and recognized the voice as a gentleman that had been a great benefactor to the church we attended in the islands. I asked what he needed and he told me he needed at least 22 sets of cabinets as quick and they could be installed. The next day I went by the office and told my boss he did not need my services for at least 6 weeks and could I have permission ( I was on a work permit) to do the work or I could go fishing and he could pay me the $1.000 CI for the six weeks of my fishing. He said do the work. At the end of the six weeks I had made enough to pay off my mortgage, all my expenses for the six weeks and $10,000 CI $12,500 US dollars) All of this except $5000 CI was extra money I did not expect to receive.

I am presently helping the second church that can not afford to pay a pastor a living wage they are able to give me $275 per week which takes care of my expenses on my house and provides a little for us to spend on groceries.

Now you are going to try and tell me all this was just a coincidence. Try as you may you will never convince me these extra funds came about because I promised God to do something for Him if He would provide those funds.

Now give it your best shot without insulting my intelligence. Let me remind you I taught 4 classes during my senior year in High School. I taught first year typing, Senior Bookkeeping, a fourth grade class, and a sixth grade class and maintained a A average in my classes. In four years of college I never received a grade lower than 99. I had a professor that said no one could do a perfect paper. All he had to do was to spend enough time and he could find a place where a comma or period was missing, so he never gave a grade over 99. He was my language teacher.

Now you may think I have a few loose screws that is perfectly OK by me. I want you to know that at 80+ years old I could care less what you think.

I have led a happy full life and I have never done anything I did not want to do. I have enjoyed every minute of my life and if I could go back knowing what I know now, and including what you think and begin my life over I would not change anything because I am very happy right where I am at, at the present moment. So if I die and you and other's here are correct and there is no God, no heaven I will never know that as a fact.

My question to you and anyone else, since I have lived a happy full, content life because I believe in and trust God, and die and that is all there is too it what have I lost?

Be specific about what you think I have lost.

God Bless,


"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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AZPaul3
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Message 153 of 163 (878574)
07-01-2020 8:38 PM
Reply to: Message 152 by ICANT
07-01-2020 4:31 PM


Re: AZ
Oh, Reverend, one can have a whole bunch of screws loose and still be a kind considerate giver.

I have no doubt that you are a kind and caring man. What I doubt is that your faith, your desire to live a life as Jesus would, is what made you that way. You could have been an atheist, Buddhist, Muslim and would been just as considerate and generous because that is the man in your heart. I submit you were always that man, would have been that man regardless of what religion or none entered your soul and you would have been just as happy and fulfilled in your life.

And bad miserable mean people are just as bad miserable and mean regardless of the same religious beliefs as yours or mine. Religion or no are just molds you pour a mind into. The mold can form an outward appearance of a man but the mind is the man.

What you miss out on in being a religious nutter is the true wonder, the true beauty, the true freedom of this universe.

You have your universe made for you. “Let there be … poof!” and it is there. Mine is a so much grander a creation. Bigger than any one god and built without majik, without someone’s will or dictate or plan. Just nature, left to her own processes, unplanned, without guide or purpose. You miss out on the wonder, the sheer audacity of what this universe has become on its own accord. The real magic is not in some god’s majik poof but in the boundless wondrous creations of a free and volatile nature.

You also miss out on the real knowledge of yourself. Can you really know who you are, Reverend, when you have been poured into that mold with a moral code dictated by some long dead and disappeared priests that MUST be followed under penalty of your immortal soul? I’m not talking about the usual socialization training we give children but those choices we all face in life; where we must choose at life’s moral crossroads. Do you have to lean on Jesus to tell you what he wants or can you know in your own mind what is right, what is proper, just by virtue of being you?

Related to the above are other decisions. Those of family, politics, society. Again, do you let millennia old mores of ancient peoples past dictate who you befriend and who you abhor? Do you harden your heart because the ancient priests say you must? Do you pick and choose which physics and sciences to embrace based on myths in ancient books? Are you free to embrace new human freedoms where your ancient priests counseled disgust and ostracism?

How can you trust a man whose mind is so weak he has to be told what to think? Our species history is filled to the brim with bad disastrous decisions made based on religious considerations instead of the reality of the universe around us. Even today pastors ignore the science of reality citing their god’s powers while their parishioners die gasping in the ICU.

This is what the religious mind misses out on.

I am happy that you are happy and fulfilled. I congratulate you on your life’s success.

It could have been so much more fulfilling without the religious handicap.


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Message 154 of 163 (878577)
07-01-2020 10:29 PM
Reply to: Message 149 by AZPaul3
06-29-2020 11:52 PM


Re: AZ
Hi AZ,

AZ writes:

I say you accept what you believe by faith as you have zero evidence for either having occurred as you believe they did.

That is way wrong.

Why do you say it is way wrong? Working on my book now so give me your best answer.

AZ writes:

I do not know how the universe began nor do I know how life began.

According to the standard Big Bang model, the universe was born during a period of inflation that began about 13.8 billion years ago.

How many assumptions is necessary to support that statement?
1 It must be assumed that the universe was formed from nothing according to the laws of science.
2. It must be assumed that whatever produced the universe did not exist at T=0 but it did exist at T=0-44 and was expanding faster than the now known speed of light.
Proposed fixes for the problem of something from nothing.
Hartley/Hawkins proposed an instanton which requires a vacuum to pop into existence. So to believe that being the fix you have to assume the vacuum existed when there was nothing as there is nothing outside of the universe.
Jöel Scherk and John Henry Schwarz were the first to propose string theory.
The strings require space to exist in order for the strings to exist and bang together. So to believe strings are the answer you have to assume space existed outside of the universe.

3. Without knowing how the universe began to exist that means there is no theory of how the universe began to exist. If you don't know nor can you put forth any ideas without making many more assumptions. That means everything that is being taught today is based on assumptions.

What is an assumption. a thing that is accepted as true or as certain to happen, without proof.

To believe anything without proof is called faith.

I examine the evidence I have for the existence of God and assume that information is the best evidence I have to base a decision on.

AZ writes:

In the absence of a preponderance I can only go where the present evidence logically points.

For someone who has a enough evidence to come to a decision you have a hard time presenting it to someone who has their own present evidence.

AZ writes:

There is not enough evidence to conclude what/how the beginnings of life proceeded but the evidence we do have indicates that it most probably came from natural chemical interactions.

The most logical answer would be the life on earth was produced by life.
Just like the most logical answer would be that the universe was formed by an eternal everlasting energy source.

AZ writes:

Replication, the start of what most would call life, appears from the evidence we do have to be nothing more than a set of chemical reactions in a repetitious cycle.

What lifeform on earth was created by chemical reactions?

AZ writes:

No need for faith in any of this. I accept the natural explanations,

You accept what has been assumed to be the truth, and call them natural explanations.

Actually you are not thinking you are letting other people think for you.

AZ writes:

I have never been so off my nut that I have experienced anything, or known of anything viably reliable, that was not a natural physical phenomenon. Psychochemical stimulants exempted, of course.

I have no doubt that you have never even considered anything that you were not taught from an infant until this day.

AZ writes:

I have no need of faith. I have reality.

You only have faith.

You won't and don't accept reality.

Reality life produces life.
Reality Energy produces matter and mass.

The mass of the universe requires a huge source of energy to produce the universe. Science has no such energy source. Everything is produced from something imaginary. Or that is assumed to exist.

God Bless,


"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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Message 155 of 163 (878589)
07-02-2020 2:46 AM
Reply to: Message 153 by AZPaul3
07-01-2020 8:38 PM


Re: AZ
Hi AZ

AZ writes:

I have no doubt that you are a kind and caring man. What I doubt is that your faith, your desire to live a life as Jesus would, is what made you that way.

My wife accuses me of giving away everything I have ever made so she would agree with you. We do have enough left to last us another 20 years and I doubt either of us will make a 100.

Actually I believe I am what I am today because I loved to read books. My mom and dad separated when I was 2 years old I spent a year and half years with my mother in Niagara Falls NY.I attended the 7th grade there and was introduced to advanced teaching methods. I started my speed reading class only able to read 285 words a minute with 30% retention. At the end of the year I could read 1500 words per minute with 74% retention. That summer I came back to Florida. Since I had a hour and half bus ride to school I read 1 to 2 books going each way with my English teacher picking out the books for me to read. We had no TV or any of the other distractions so if I did not have chores on the farm I read Saturday and Sunday. My grandparents were in their mid 70's my uncles and dad to wild to go to church so I was not raised in church. But I made an early decision from my reading secular books that what I read from the Bible sounded most logical to me. My dad was saved when I was 22 years old.

AZ writes:

I submit you were always that man, would have been that man regardless of what religion or none entered your soul and you would have been just as happy and fulfilled in your life.

My mother was an acholic and we drank together when I lived with her. I never got drunk and could drink like a fish. I loved whiskey as I had drank moonshine from the time I was 3 years old. After a year and half living in Niagara Falls experimenting with all kinds of crazy stuff we had back then I decided I had to get back to Florida. I took my last drink in 1962 and can still taste it today simply by thinking about it. So no I would have probably been the biggest drunk if I could have got enough whiskey to make me drunk, in the world. I kept reading the Bible and our founding fathers papers and other people's problems and decided in my mind I would not be like my mother or other people I would just be me. I have been working on that since 1962.
I am far from perfect, and unless what I read in the Bible is true I will never be perfect. But I read in the Bible where God can and will make me perfect by forgiving all my sins. Then one day give me a new body that does not sin and at a later time He will erase all the bad memories from my mind. Thus I would be a perfect being just like the man God formed from the dust of the ground creating a perfect being.

AZ writes:

What you miss out on in being a religious nutter is the true wonder, the true beauty, the true freedom of this universe.

Man I have not missed out on anything. I see that you will never behold in your present state. I have sat on the sea shore in Little Cayman and looked into the heavens through clear clean air making the heavens so big and bright that I felt I could reach up and touch the stars. Where I live now on a clear night I can probably see a couple of hundred stars. In the Cayman's I could see millions they seemed to be so close together you could not stick your finger between them. I have been 1,000 feet down in the clear water surrounding the Cayman Islands. There is another world of critters down there. Some of the most beautiful creatures I have ever seen.

AZ writes:

You have your universe made for you. “Let there be … poof!” and it is there.

Where did you get that idea from. You sure did not get it from reading my posts. In fact I am beginning to think you have never read any of my posts. Oh you look at them and pick out things you want to berate me on. This message I am responding too seems to be a little different.

Back to your "poof". I have never said God poofed the universe into existence.

1. I believe the universe has always existed in some form just not in the form we see it today.

2. I believe somewhere in the past God began creating the universe and then He began to create the earth.

3. Yet I believe He created the heavens and the earth in one light period.

God gave us the definition of a day in Genesis 1:5.

quote:
1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

God called the light day. Day equals a light period.

You might ask how long was this light period? All I know is it lasted from the beginning until darkness had come over the earth we find at Genesis 1:2

So I think there was enough light to create the CMB we see today without a big bang.

I have asked numerous times here and other places how the oil was produced that is in the ground. Over 4 trillion barrels which takes 98 tons of decayed matter to produce 1 gallon of oil.
1 barrel equals 42 gallons
1 barrel of oil requires 4,116 tons of decayed matter which equals 1.6464e+16
or if you prefer 16,464 trillion tons.

All that material had to be buried under up to 5 miles of dirt and rock over eons. So in the early stages the earth was a lot smaller than it is today. As the earth produced vegetation then it would get bombarded by material from space. Vegetation grew bombarded by material from space over and over again until the material to produce the oil we have in the earth today was buried.

AZ writes:

You have your universe made for you. “Let there be … poof!” and it is there. Mine is a so much grander a creation. Bigger than any one god and built without majik, without someone’s will or dictate or plan. Just nature, left to her own processes, unplanned, without guide or purpose. You miss out on the wonder, the sheer audacity of what this universe has become on its own accord. The real magic is not in some god’s majik poof but in the boundless wondrous creations of a free and volatile nature.

You are simply confusing what God did with your nature.

AZ writes:

Related to the above are other decisions. Those of family, politics, society. Again, do you let millennia old mores of ancient peoples past dictate who you befriend and who you abhor? Do you harden your heart because the ancient priests say you must? Do you pick and choose which physics and sciences to embrace based on myths in ancient books? Are you free to embrace new human freedoms where your ancient priests counseled disgust and ostracism?

How do you harden your heart? All it is and does is pump blood. It don't think or make decisions. That is done in the mind.
And no I am a free thinker. I don't believe anything I hear, and very little of what I see.

AZ writes:

How can you trust a man whose mind is so weak he has to be told what to think? Our species history is filled to the brim with bad disastrous decisions made based on religious considerations instead of the reality of the universe around us. Even today pastors ignore the science of reality citing their god’s powers while their parishioners die gasping in the ICU.

Why do you believe what you are told? You sure don't have evidence that supports what you believe and speak.

Apparently you have never studied my Bible or the things I believe. As I actually believe in reality your believe in your fairy tale you have been brain washed with.

AZ writes:

It could have been so much more fulfilling without the religious handicap.

What about my religious beliefs do you think has handicapped me?

God Bless,


"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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Message 156 of 163 (878593)
07-02-2020 6:25 AM
Reply to: Message 146 by ICANT
06-29-2020 12:37 AM


AZ, Ringo Et Al
I do not believe in gods. I do believe in one God. I do believe in demonic beings. I have met both and I prefer Gods presence.
Me too, Pastor. And so has Isaiah Saldivar. I believe that we are in the time when God is separating the wheat from the chaff. The church in America will shrink, but it will be a good thing. Old dead churches will die unless their Pastors repent and quit teaching modern church programs and gimmicks and get back to the Word of God. That is all that needs to be taught. But lets get back to our conversation in the main topic and let the peanut gallery shell peanuts, shall we?

“The only way I know to drive out evil from the country is by the constructive method of filling it with good.”Calvin Coolidge
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
“As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.”-RC Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith

- You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.
Anne Lamott
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Message 157 of 163 (878594)
07-02-2020 7:21 AM
Reply to: Message 151 by AZPaul3
07-01-2020 1:39 PM


Re: AZ
But truly, one of the greatest feelings of happy I have ever experienced was when I was sitting in my chair reading my book and my daughter was sprawled out on the floor reading her book when she started softly humming a happy little tune. All the world’s cares melted away and life was never more beautiful. Then I realized the tune was Justin Bieber and the spell broke.
Whose tune would you have preferred she hummed? REM?(Shiny Happy People) or perhaps something from the Beatles?

“The only way I know to drive out evil from the country is by the constructive method of filling it with good.”Calvin Coolidge
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
“As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.”-RC Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith

- You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.
Anne Lamott
I Have Strong Arguments Which I Cant Say To You~CG

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Message 158 of 163 (878595)
07-02-2020 7:32 AM
Reply to: Message 153 by AZPaul3
07-01-2020 8:38 PM


AZ and Ringo
Phat writes:

What does a skeptic like you believe? Is there a Creator of all seen and unseen. Yes or No.

ringo writes:

There's no reason to think there is.

phat writes:

I didn't ask for a reason.

ringo writes:

Then it isn't a reasonable question.

So in other words, you are asking me why it is reasonable to believe that there is a Creator of all seen and unseen. Got it. Moving on...

AZPaul3 writes:

My hope, my speculation, is that as human intellect and technology progress we will uncover the physics that answers the origins questions. And when we find those answers I believe they will be totally surprising, totally unforeseen and will lead to even bigger greater questions we didn’t even know to ask.

Unfortunately, I won’t be around to see this play out and I have grave concerns whether humanity will survive long enough to do this.

You and I agree on the urgency of the times we are in yet simply disagree on the presence of and need for God. Despite you being an atheist(which I wont hold against you) you have a rational mind.

AZPaul3, addressing ICANT writes:

What you miss out on in being a religious nutter is the true wonder, the true beauty, the true freedom of this universe.

You have your universe made for you. “Let there be … poof!” and it is there. Mine is a so much grander a creation. Bigger than any one god and built without majik, without someone’s will or dictate or plan. Just nature, left to her own processes, unplanned, without guide or purpose. You miss out on the wonder, the sheer audacity of what this universe has become on its own accord. The real magic is not in some god’s majik poof but in the boundless wondrous creations of a free and volatile nature.

Bigger than any one god? Who? Nature? The Universe itself? Please elaborate. I would only say that your statement would be true if God was simply limited to the imagination of humans. Which you believe and I don't.

“The only way I know to drive out evil from the country is by the constructive method of filling it with good.”Calvin Coolidge
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
“As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.”-RC Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith

- You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.
Anne Lamott
I Have Strong Arguments Which I Cant Say To You~CG

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Message 159 of 163 (878612)
07-02-2020 10:42 AM
Reply to: Message 152 by ICANT
07-01-2020 4:31 PM


Re: AZ
ICANT writes:

... one of the largest construction companies in the Cayman Islands....


Is that anything like the fanciest restaurant in Moose Jaw?

"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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Message 160 of 163 (878618)
07-02-2020 11:55 AM
Reply to: Message 156 by Phat
07-02-2020 6:25 AM


Re: AZ, Ringo Et Al
Hi Phat,

Phat writes:

shall we?

Anytime.

But I love boiled peanuts.

God Bless,


"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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Message 161 of 163 (878621)
07-02-2020 12:23 PM
Reply to: Message 159 by ringo
07-02-2020 10:42 AM


Re: AZ
Hi ringo,

ringo writes:

fanciest restaurant in Moose Jaw?

I have been to many places in Canada in 1951/52 but never had the opportunity to visit Moose Jaw. They have mining and farming as their main enterprises. There is about 36,000 residents in Moose Jaw.

The Cayman Islands is a tourist center with a population of 40,000 residents with about 14,000 permit workers on the Island. There is around 60,000 visitors on the Island at any given time.

The company I worked for was the second largest construction company on the Island with over a billion dollars of business a year. They built homes and condo's. I worked on 10 million dollar condos and 15 million dollar houses.

So I don't know how you could compare that to fanciest restaurant in Moose, Jaw Canada.

God Bless,


"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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Message 162 of 163 (878622)
07-02-2020 12:27 PM
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07-02-2020 12:23 PM


ringo of Canuckistan
I think that ringo lives in Saskatchewan. He uses the computer at the library with which to correspond with us. The man is roughly 70, right in between my 60 and your 80+. I told him I might come visit him sometime and wont tell him who I am. He responded by saying he knows what I look like!

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Message 163 of 163 (878644)
07-02-2020 3:54 PM
Reply to: Message 161 by ICANT
07-02-2020 12:23 PM


Re: AZ
ICANT writes:

So I don't know how you could compare that to fanciest restaurant in Moose, Jaw Canada.


I didn't think you'd get it.

The fanciest restaurant that I've been to in Moose Jaw is the one at the gas station on the highway that stays open all night.

quote:
I've been to Paris, it's smelly and cold
I've been to Athens, where the buildings are old
I've walked 'cross Tasmania in the antarctic dawn
But it just don't compare with ol' Saskatchewan

'Cause I've skied in the Rockies, I've walked the white sands
I've known people who could not find their ass with both hands
I've sailed to Tahiti, seen the Northern Lights
And, babe, would you meet me in Moose Jaw tonight?

'Cause I've sailed the deep ocean, I've flown the big sky
Traveled the Silk Road from Rome to Shanghai
Been to Sydney and Singapore and ol' Ballyhai[?]
But I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die

We can stroll 'round the city, say 'Hi' to the cop
See the light that says 'Go' and the sign that says 'Stop'
We can walk through the village square without any fear
We can go see a movie that came out last year

I've seen the Big Apple, the Oracle at Delphi
Wailed at the Wailing Wall, walked the Sinai
Bought hash in Amsterdam, golfed in Dubai
But I've been to Moose Jaw, kiss my ass good-bye

Calgary's not finished and Montreal's broke
Vancouver's a hellhole, Toronto's a joke
Winnipeg's freezing the whole damn year round
And Regina actually smells like it sounds

Please come to Moose Jaw if you don't believe me
Where you can see for miles that there's nothing to see
Our days will be perfect, our nights will be full
And each weekend we'll go to the big tractor pull

I've been robbed blind in Rio, jailed in Paraguay
Scalped tickets in Bangkok for 'The King And I'
But I'd give up the sultan at [?] Brunei
'Cause I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die

Wiped my ass with the Dead Sea Scrolls, tell you no lie
I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die
I did this song in Moose Jaw—and it died

John Wing



"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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