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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8563 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
They are entirely based on beliefs and beliefs alone. What beliefs would those be? Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.Factio Republicana delenda est.
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
dad writes:
That's obviously false. For example, Darwin read Lyell's book on geology while he was on the voyage where he made his observations. He had no idea "what to look for" to back up a theory that he han't even thought of yet. And Lyell had no idea "what to look for" that would back up a theory that hadn't even been thought of yet. They don't really look for anything else but what they believe existed."I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
dad writes:
In the case of the correlation gang here, name you best point. I can knock it out. There are threads and threads full of RAZD's correlations. Feel free to go over there and knock any of them out.
dad writes:
It isn't just about rocks though. It's about lake varves and ice cores and tree rings.... Go ahead and explain how the age of a tree ring can just "happen" to correspond with the age of an ice core on the opposite side of the world. Who cares if misreading ratios in two separate rocks yields totally imaginary dates that could never be proven?"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
dad writes:
You talked about fables and I pointed out that the fables (talking animals) are in the Bible, not in science. And fables are fiction, so I wasn't talking about anything that "used to exist". You mentioned the communication that used to exist, not me."I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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dad Member (Idle past 1366 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
Show us an example of how varves agree with tree rings somewhere say around 10,000 years ago. I'll look at it.
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dad Member (Idle past 1366 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
If you claim that communication with angels or Adam in the garden and animals is not true, then you need some proof.
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dad Member (Idle past 1366 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
Then they were pre origin science.
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dad Member (Idle past 1366 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
In the case of the evolution of life, the main belief is in a same nature in the past. (hence the radioactive decay, the rate of adaptation, the ways things fossilize, etc etc)
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JonF Member (Idle past 196 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Sure. From Radiocarbon calibration curve spanning 0 to 50,000 years BP based on paired 230Th/234U/238U and 14C dates on pristine corals:
(click to make it larger). The green line is tree rings and the gray and half-gray squares are Cariaco Basin varves.
Synchronous Radiocarbon and Climate Shifts During the Last Deglaciation (May require free registatrion. Gray squares.)
14C Activity and Global Carbon Cycle Changes over the Past 50,000 Years(same free registration, half-gray squares).
The 12,460-Year Hohenheim Oak and Pine Tree-Ring Chronology from Central EuropeA Unique Annual Record for Radiocarbon Calibration and Paleoenvironment Reconstructions (green line tree rings). Enjoy.
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Capt Stormfield Member Posts: 429 From: Vancouver Island Joined: |
Well before we waste time on a past that might never have been, we'll need to hear your refutation of Last Thursdayism.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
If you claim that communication with angels or Adam in the garden and animals is not true, then you need some proof. It's fiction.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
dad writes:
Again, no such thing. Science is science. I just follows the evidence. It does not decide ahead of time - like you do - what the evidence "should" be. Then they were pre origin science."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." --John Wing
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
dad writes:
You keep getting it backwards. We don't look for negative evidence. That would be like saying we can't find France so it doesn't exist. That kind of silly conclusion is for you, not for science. If you claim that communication with angels or Adam in the garden and animals is not true, then you need some proof."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." --John Wing
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
dad writes:
I told you, it's all in RAZD's threads. You've had ample opportunity to look at it. Show us an example of how varves agree with tree rings somewhere say around 10,000 years ago. I'll look at it."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." --John Wing
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dad Member (Idle past 1366 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
Ok, so it looks like a tree ring line goes 14,000 years. Can you give details? What trees are involved?(obviously not live ones)
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