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dad Member (Idle past 1363 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
quote:Unless you can prove it was the same there is no need. We believe what we choose. The claim that nature was the same is not falsifiable. (able to be proved to be false). Science cannot prove it false or true! quote:Since science doesn't know either was no one needs to or can show how some unknown nature in the past changed. All that is needed is to realize science only believes and does not know. quote:Showing a one liner that has no content or specifics to be false is not denial. quote:How does a dead tree tell you how fast it used to grow 4600 years ago exactly?
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dad Member (Idle past 1363 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
It is arrogant of you to pretend science knows when being shown unable to demonstrate it.
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dad Member (Idle past 1363 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
Not a scientific basis, sorry. Maybe keep playing in the sand or whatever.
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dad Member (Idle past 1363 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
You switch from tree rings to deep space. You seem to be all over the map here. OK, so light is seen here in the area of the solar system only. We do not go out into the universe and see it at source, you realize this much?
Now, we also do not know what time is like out there at all. We do not see time or space. So what time is involved in anything happening out there is absolutely unknown. You with me so far? Edited by dad, : No reason given.
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dad Member (Idle past 1363 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
quote: Unless you know and can prove that the nature you use in all models of the past was as you claim, I have no reason to assume it was. None at all. In fact, Scripture and even ancient history to some extent records that it was not the same. So I do not consider it a question, we already have the record. When you claim otherwise I naturally demand real evidence.
quote:I think that nature follows certain forces and laws and as long as that nature exists, we can expect those laws to be valid. However, I also happen to know that one day soon that nature will change again! So I will not be the one hiding under rocks wishing to die when predicted changes occur. ( I hope).
quote: Let's see a close up of tree rings over 5000 deep? Let's look at that pattern for that time. We wait. If you pass that bar, we will then ask the question 'have you any reasons that fast growing trees in the different past nature would not have a similar pattern, though the rings represent parts of a month or week or day rather than seasons'?
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dad Member (Idle past 1363 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
It's not up to me to prove your beliefs.
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dad Member (Idle past 1363 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
You have comprehension issues if you think Razd's belief based arguments demonstrated anything.
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dad Member (Idle past 1363 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
No one thinks Scripture is reliable to those who have rejected God.
Razd did not cover how trees grew in the past. By the way I don't see him around..?
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dad Member (Idle past 1363 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
Because reality involves more than imagination and belief.
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dad Member (Idle past 1363 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
How long do we know it was the same on earth? Certainly the world described in early Sumer seemed different, since they have people living many centuries. They also had spirits living with us in Egyptian records. That would not be natural now.
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dad Member (Idle past 1363 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
quote:We are those living on earth. We choose what we believe generally. quote:No. Definition of science 1 : the state of knowing : knowledge as distinguished from ignorance or misunderstanding Not the state of having hunches beliefs of feelings or assumptions. You are welcome to your beliefs. Present them as such.
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dad Member (Idle past 1363 days) Posts: 337 Joined:
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Sorry to hear that, he was a lively debater.
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dad Member (Idle past 1363 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
The main reason that stuff seems unchallenged is because dissent was quashed and opposing opinions.
There is nothing in the thread I could not deal with handily.
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dad Member (Idle past 1363 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
Scripture and ancient historical records of the past.
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dad Member (Idle past 1363 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
Then post your best shot from it and watch the action.
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