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Faith 
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Message 121 of 133 (853005)
05-21-2019 1:54 PM
Reply to: Message 120 by PaulK
05-21-2019 1:46 PM


Re: Critical thinking/ spiritual discernment.
Whatever.

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Message 122 of 133 (853006)
05-21-2019 2:07 PM
Reply to: Message 121 by Faith
05-21-2019 1:54 PM


Re: Critical thinking/ spiritual discernment.
Shame, I was hoping for more comedy gold like the last post.

Especially as I made an allusion to one of your most egregious failures.

But let’s not forget the others like your insistence that the child of Isaiah 7 could only be Jesus - when the text says that the birth would be a sign of events that occurred in the reign of Ahaz.


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Message 123 of 133 (853085)
05-22-2019 10:37 AM
Reply to: Message 17 by Aussie
05-15-2019 12:04 PM


Re: Thugzy Unplugged
My aim is to break the mold...to be controversial

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith

You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile


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Message 124 of 133 (853091)
05-22-2019 11:03 AM
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05-22-2019 10:37 AM


Re: Thugzy Unplugged
Phat writes:

My aim is to break the mold...to be controversial

You're not going to be controversial by spouting the same pulpit guff as all the other loony evangelics.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 125 of 133 (853101)
05-22-2019 12:03 PM
Reply to: Message 124 by Tangle
05-22-2019 11:03 AM


Re: Thugzy Unplugged
Well, I AM a believer, after all. You can't expect me to present my worldview under the guise of atheistic secular humanism. What I will do is to compare and contrast various ideologies and belief systems while not waffling on my own beliefs. Many of our conversations at EvC will be brought to life through some of my video commentaries. You have always claimed that I am delusional, but quite frankly the jury is still out as to which of us is actually deluded. No disrespect intended, Tangle. I know that you are of sound mind and are logical and rational.

Admittedly my beliefs are not logical in the context of modern psychological and sociological thought. But alas....I won't give them up for that reason.


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith

You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile


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Message 126 of 133 (853271)
05-24-2019 11:52 AM


Plugging EvC Forum
I mentioned EvC in my video today. We may get some new visitors.


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith

You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile


  
Phat
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Message 127 of 133 (853891)
06-02-2019 4:11 AM


Dr.Timothy Keller & Apologeticss

Comments are welcome. I know that ringo and jar despise all apologists, but these days I am unafraid to explore the opinions and beliefs of others though I will say that Im not going to treat all beliefs the same since I have already been persuaded by the Christian World View---thus to be fair, I am biased.

Edited by Thugpreacha, : No reason given.

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Edited by Phat, : updated


"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“We must realize that the Reformation world view leads in the direction of government freedom. But the humanist world view with inevitable certainty leads in the direction of statism. This is so because humanists, having no god, must put something at the center, and it is inevitably society, government, or the state.”- Francis A. Schaeffer

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killosophy


  
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Message 128 of 133 (855303)
06-18-2019 3:40 PM


On the way to the mall

I was on the way to the mall with Vidal to help him get his cap. God has been very good to us and we expect to become known to a wider and wider audience as time commences.

Edited by Thugpreacha, : No reason given.


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith

You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile


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Message 129 of 133 (855307)
06-18-2019 3:59 PM
Reply to: Message 128 by Phat
06-18-2019 3:40 PM


Re: On the way to the mall
Ffs Phat, I'm never going to click on your bloody videos. What do you want to say?

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 130 of 133 (855308)
06-18-2019 4:03 PM
Reply to: Message 129 by Tangle
06-18-2019 3:59 PM


Re: On the way to the mall
Lets go fishing, Tangle. Lots of big ones jumping around out there.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith

You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile


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Message 131 of 133 (855314)
06-18-2019 5:08 PM
Reply to: Message 130 by Phat
06-18-2019 4:03 PM


Re: On the way to the mall
Phat writes:

Lets go fishing, Tangle. Lots of big ones jumping around out there.

Just tell us what's on your mind. Here. In words.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 132 of 133 (878822)
07-05-2020 10:53 AM


Should We Actively Deconvert People On The Brink?
Bart Campolo had a followup episode on his podcast where he furthered the discussion about whether questioning Christians should be actively deconverted.
Listen to "516: Should we deconvert people on the brink? with Leah Helbling" on Spreaker.


Leah Helbling is a close friend of Humanize Me and a member of the team at the humanist community Cincinnati Caravan with Bart Campolo.

In this episode, the two chat about Leah's instinct to attempt to 'deconvert' those who are questioning their faith, and Bart's belief that many people are better off staying where they are. The friendly disagreement started when Bart answered a question in Episode 504 from a listener called Craig who found himself in that position. (Craig was me. AKA Phat.)

Along the way, the conversation addresses some of the harm done by religion, Leah's sense of shame in her past as an evangelical woman, the kinds of Christianity available and how different they are from each other, how the length of time since deconversion can affect one's approach, the merits or otherwise of 'accommodating' Christianity, the idea that there is one best way to live or to be, to meddle or not to meddle, the difference between meddling and listening, and in what circumstances someone can know what's in somebody else's best interests.

This topic was started back when I first started my Thugpreacha Facebook Page which I am still actively pursuing. I have a lot to say when I am talking with someone face to face, but find it far more difficult to "preach" or speak to a camera on my computer in an otherwise empty room with only my parakeet and Jesus.


"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“We must realize that the Reformation world view leads in the direction of government freedom. But the humanist world view with inevitable certainty leads in the direction of statism. This is so because humanists, having no god, must put something at the center, and it is inevitably society, government, or the state.”- Francis A. Schaeffer

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killosophy


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Message 133 of 133 (878885)
07-06-2020 2:59 PM
Reply to: Message 132 by Phat
07-05-2020 10:53 AM


Re: Should We Actively Deconvert People On The Brink?
So I made a video response directed at 3 groups of people:
1) Isaiah Saldivar
2) Bart Campolo
3)EvC Forum. So here it is

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“We must realize that the Reformation world view leads in the direction of government freedom. But the humanist world view with inevitable certainty leads in the direction of statism. This is so because humanists, having no god, must put something at the center, and it is inevitably society, government, or the state.”- Francis A. Schaeffer

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killosophy


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