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Phat
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Message 132 of 133 (878822)
07-05-2020 10:53 AM


Should We Actively Deconvert People On The Brink?
Bart Campolo had a followup episode on his podcast where he furthered the discussion about whether questioning Christians should be actively deconverted.
Listen to "516: Should we deconvert people on the brink? with Leah Helbling" on Spreaker.

Leah Helbling is a close friend of Humanize Me and a member of the team at the humanist community Cincinnati Caravan with Bart Campolo.
In this episode, the two chat about Leah's instinct to attempt to 'deconvert' those who are questioning their faith, and Bart's belief that many people are better off staying where they are. The friendly disagreement started when Bart answered a question in Episode 504 from a listener called Craig who found himself in that position. (Craig was me. AKA Phat.)
Along the way, the conversation addresses some of the harm done by religion, Leah's sense of shame in her past as an evangelical woman, the kinds of Christianity available and how different they are from each other, how the length of time since deconversion can affect one's approach, the merits or otherwise of 'accommodating' Christianity, the idea that there is one best way to live or to be, to meddle or not to meddle, the difference between meddling and listening, and in what circumstances someone can know what's in somebody else's best interests.
This topic was started back when I first started my Thugpreacha Facebook Page which I am still actively pursuing. I have a lot to say when I am talking with someone face to face, but find it far more difficult to "preach" or speak to a camera on my computer in an otherwise empty room with only my parakeet and Jesus.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
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We must realize that the Reformation world view leads in the direction of government freedom. But the humanist world view with inevitable certainty leads in the direction of statism. This is so because humanists, having no god, must put something at the center, and it is inevitably society, government, or the state.- Francis A. Schaeffer
The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.
- Criss Jami, Killosophy

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Phat
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Posts: 18310
From: Denver,Colorado USA
Joined: 12-30-2003
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Message 133 of 133 (878885)
07-06-2020 2:59 PM
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07-05-2020 10:53 AM


Bart Campolo Update 2/1/2023
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The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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