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Author Topic:   Where Did The (Great Flood) Water Come From And Where Did It Go?
dad
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Message 307 of 432 (879078)
07-11-2020 2:58 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by Trixie
11-29-2011 5:10 PM


Portals in the sky sucked up the water
The calculation of water is likely based on the water needed to cover present mountains. We do not know that the high mountains of today existed. That means possibly a lot less water was needed. Your question is where the water came from (that is known) and where did it go. In my creationist perspective I think that most of the water that covered the earth came from the other side of the firmament. (the firmament is where the stars were made)
In creation week waters were separated below and above this firmament, and in the flood portals of heaven were opened allowing those waters beyond where stars are, to be transported to earth. Science envisions wormholes. That might give some small idea of what kind of higher science was involved here. The waters seem to have come across space and time through windows of heaven!
There is no limit as to how much water could come this way.
The fountains of the deep closed. A great wind came. In a hundred and fifty days the waters had receded. I suspect that those windows of heaven stopped bring rain, and maybe started 'sucking' it back up!
That explains where the water went and came from. Science is not able to understand these things. That is why there is no scientific explanation.

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Message 309 of 432 (879148)
07-12-2020 2:07 PM
Reply to: Message 308 by AZPaul3
07-11-2020 3:18 AM


Re: Portals in the sky sucked up the water
Science has limits. What lies beyond the known and limits of natural science may seem strange to those pegged to those limits. But by the tone of your posts it seems you don't care and have a religion to defend.

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Message 310 of 432 (879150)
07-12-2020 2:10 PM
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05-13-2018 11:39 PM


Re: ex nihilo / de-ex nihilo
The bible indicates plant growth such as trees was very fast in the old world. No need for plants to live underwater.

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Message 311 of 432 (879152)
07-12-2020 2:12 PM
Reply to: Message 303 by NoNukes
05-17-2018 7:03 PM


Re: ex nihilo / de-ex nihilo
The huge door of the ark was closed by God. The animals called to the ark by God. The waters were sent and taken away by God. There is no natural (where natural is defined by ignoring and omitting all parts of nature that are not physical) explanation possible.

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Message 313 of 432 (879163)
07-12-2020 2:43 PM
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07-12-2020 2:29 PM


Re: ex nihilo / de-ex nihilo
Is that because science is too small to be able to know one way or the other and deal in the issues?

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Message 315 of 432 (879181)
07-12-2020 4:35 PM
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07-12-2020 2:54 PM


Re: ex nihilo / de-ex nihilo
If science does know where the water came from or went as you claim, then post it. Obviously it does not.

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Message 320 of 432 (879215)
07-13-2020 1:35 AM
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07-12-2020 6:28 PM


Re: ex nihilo / de-ex nihilo
A foolish rant is not doing anything. You do not know what to look for and if you found it you would explain it another way! The KT layer for example is a worldwide sedimentary layer.

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Message 321 of 432 (879216)
07-13-2020 1:37 AM
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07-12-2020 6:23 PM


Re: Portals in the sky sucked up the water
Yes it does.

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Message 322 of 432 (879217)
07-13-2020 1:37 AM
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07-12-2020 8:37 PM


Re: ex nihilo / de-ex nihilo
Prove it.

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Message 326 of 432 (879238)
07-13-2020 2:12 PM
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07-13-2020 4:06 AM


Re: Portals in the sky sucked up the water
False. The only effects we see and feel are in this solar system area. Science is subject to this area!

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Message 327 of 432 (879239)
07-13-2020 2:14 PM
Reply to: Message 324 by AZPaul3
07-13-2020 4:44 AM


Yucatan fountain
For all we know, it could have been a fountain of the deep that is no longer active in Yucatan that may have shot stuff upward. (impact from below). You could be misreading evidence. Now if you can prove otherwise, fine. Your little statements have zero value as anything other than statements of faith meanwhile though, of course.
So, impact, yes! Impact around the time of the dino demise, yes.
Edited by dad, : No reason given.

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Message 328 of 432 (879240)
07-13-2020 2:20 PM
Reply to: Message 325 by ringo
07-13-2020 12:20 PM


Re: ex nihilo / de-ex nihilo
Science does not know. It has no possible way of knowing whether wormhole like openings in the sky existed temporarily long ago in the past. be honest.
As for your concern about what the bible indicates about trees growing in the former world, a garden was planted. Man ate fruit from trees in the garden the same week!

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Message 331 of 432 (879264)
07-13-2020 7:34 PM
Reply to: Message 329 by Tanypteryx
07-13-2020 2:24 PM


Re: ex nihilo / de-ex nihilo
I thought so.

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Message 332 of 432 (879265)
07-13-2020 7:37 PM
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07-13-2020 2:48 PM


Re: Yucatan fountain
Walt Brown envisioned a great and forceful reuption of the fountains of the deep that ejected stuff violently upward. He even imagined that much of it went into space it was so forceful. Now we do not know the force involved, but it seems a safe bet to assume that the direction of the event may have come from below. Science has assumed it must have been from above. Got anything more than assumptions? Yes we have impacted quartz, but does it show direction?

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Message 338 of 432 (879277)
07-14-2020 1:20 AM
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07-13-2020 7:41 PM


Re: Yucatan fountain
The issue is how the crater formed. Try to work on those tenses. I might suggest the movie scrooge.

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