Should we teach both evolution and religion in school?

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No, what I am saying is there is evidence today that carnivores can survive on non-meat diets. Where is your evidence from the past or future that says carnivores can only survive on meat?

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Animals that eat grass usually are ruminants. In fact the bible says they will grass like the ox. So there is no mystery here. Unless you claim that wolves and lions will develop dual stomachs in a matter of weeks, your attempt at diversion is overthrown. [/quote] False, I do not assume I live as long as Noah, or that trees grow in weeks, nor that spirits marry women. I assume we are in this present nature where realities are different.

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Do you think there was a time when the multiplication rule of probabilities did not apply in a stochastic process?

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"Stochastic - WikipediaStochastic refers to a randomly determined process.."I see no reason to claim that adaptation depended on anything random in the former nature. Why should I?

How anything adapts and evolves over the course of decades or years or months has nothing to do with the far past and how things adapted then. You are trying to base what is probable on ignorance.

You posted nothing of interest or value there. Why pretend. I think the thread is still active, you should dredge up some item there you think was unfairly treated or valuable, etc.Edited by dad, : No reason given.Edited by dad, : No reason given.

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YOU are the one who's trying to overthrow the status quo in science.

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Why would I need to overthrow a religion? They are entitled to believe whatever they like. When you claim that specific aspects of the models of the past that science uses are more than a belief, you must provide real evidence and a reasoned case.Edited by dad, : No reason given.

As a beacon of truth and light.

Well, offering an opinion that kids should no longer be taught lies in school, but the truth seems to be about all one could do here.

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Evolution is an established and basic part of biology.

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Not regarding origins of life, or the far past. What can be taught is how bacteria or whatever now adapt and evolve. To teach more IS religion.

Always good talking as if you have won or have something to say after someone gets banned eh?

It is not my claims. TOE does involve a belief in the way evolving happened in the past. It does involve a specific set of beliefs used on all evidences such as the fossil record. In fact it is nothing more at all. Please be honest. If there is a mod out there who is a good honest atheist, rather than a phoney believer, please take over here...thanks.Edited by dad, : No reason given.Edited by dad, : No reason given.

Clocks based on assuming nature was the same are what science is set to. Apologies for mistaking the post...Edited by dad, : No reason given.