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Message 19 of 263 (878406)
06-29-2020 5:15 PM


nothing.
you have the 3 ring circus of azpaul3, ringo, and tangle.
then you have phat and jar arguing with each other ad infinitum.
I guess all this place shows is that if you condescend to the people you want to reach out to, eventually no one will listen.
besides those 5 users basically talking at the wall here, what is left here?
besides concern trolling DJT's presidency.
RIP to the dead greats that made this place great. robinrohan, buz, razd, asgara
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Message 118 of 263 (879197)
07-12-2020 8:29 PM


ironically this dust-up with kleinman and the evolutionists underline my point exactly
not only does the casual not understand what the heck any of you are saying
you're literally vapidly chattering nonsense at each other
you've outjuked the juke's-cantor cantor and it's bananas
this site has become an absurdity
i guess it always was, but when i joined in 03 as a teen, i was more naive to the psychopathetic nature of the s@#$-libs and fringe creationists
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Message 121 of 263 (879204)
07-12-2020 8:58 PM
Reply to: Message 120 by Kleinman
07-12-2020 8:45 PM


i've gleaned enough to know that you're on to something. the mathematical models to prove evolution must be astronomical. you've exposed that the randomness they claim is a myth because they believe that the eyeball came from a single cell.
they are more predeterminate than immanuel kant going on his daily walk
however, the way these topics are broached, is broken. you may be a mathematically brilliant, but the way you present your ideas is in obfuscated language, and the evolutionist-idiots are the only ones willing to even try to understand what you're writing about here.

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Message 140 of 263 (879263)
07-13-2020 6:23 PM
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07-13-2020 5:24 PM


yes

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Message 172 of 263 (879409)
07-16-2020 12:06 AM
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07-15-2020 5:47 PM


Re: Self Serving Beliefs
what's the computation for abiogenesis? in terms of probability, that matter sprang from nothing or proteins from nothing, inanimate matter to organic matter?
what's the probability of abiogenesis occuring and creating reality?

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Message 173 of 263 (879410)
07-16-2020 12:10 AM


Alan Kleinman | California State University USA | Bacteriology 2019 | Pulsus Conference
Kleinman's the real deal. funny the guys with the credentials are skewing creationist these days.

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Message 179 of 263 (879434)
07-16-2020 1:10 PM
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07-16-2020 9:29 AM


Re: Self Serving Beliefs
It is a tale. Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury. Signifying nothing.
bravo, kleinman.
i've been exploring two belief-centric films, the ninth configuration and the exorcist, both creations of the great Catholic Mind of William P Blatty.
the evolutionists expect us to accept their story lock stock and barrel, without having the numbers to back it up.
i do know one thing. i was created. by a loving god. named Jesus Christ. and his name is holy, yeshua.
and by the way, the evolutionists can't figure out why humanity has love, why we sacrifice ourselves for others, it speaks against the survival of the fittest.
these are just myths and stories they tell themselves so they can ignore the reality staring them in the face:
god became man incarnate of the virgin mary
he suffered under pontius pilate died and was buried in accordance with the scriptures
he rose from the dead and is seated at the right hand of god, from where he will judge the living and the dead
his kingdom will have no end.

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Message 183 of 263 (879486)
07-17-2020 12:08 AM
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07-16-2020 1:44 PM


Re: Self Serving Beliefs
I think it's hard for people to believe in Jesus Christ. Believing in Jesus Christ requires suffering in this world. If there was a magical way to discount Jesus, it's no surprise many would leap at it. A life without accountability to Jesus Christ, is a special kind of hell, a cruel animalistic fate.
In a way, the ToE is a fancy name for an animus religion. Returning to an animal state, rejecting human sentience. Living this way is easier, although it is counterfeit, perhaps why so many atheists get cold feet about atheism at the end of life,--and if you don't accept Jesus Christ as God, you may as well be an atheist, because you're equally worthless, and twice as shameful, at least the atheist can claim mental defect before Christ the judge.
Divine Mercy is the gospel and I have hope that even the worst atheist can find redemption in the Blood of Jesus Christ, the Good Shepherd, the only one who can love even the worst sufferer, even the most pitiable human existence.
I would rather have every physical and mental disease at once than be a healthy atheist, because the burden of sin is great upon the spirit, Christ eases the yoke, God is all-loving and all-knowing, and he saved me from a life of hell on earth. He has set us aside and he has asked us to love the least of those among us, among the mentally disabled I see crowns, I see redemption even in the face of brain diseases and the cruelest snares of the evil one.
I would rather die on my feet than be the helpless prey to the devil that the atheists are, although they are largely ignored, the devil hates priests the most, because they are practitioners of the sacraments and our active salvation.
to be an atheist is to be a spectator in the salvation of humanity.
unfortunately for them, life is lived better actively, on the team of Jesus, not as a spectator sport.
the atheist rides the rickety bleachers denying Christ because he is afraid to be himself, a created being, not a molecular skin to be lived out without consequences and discarded like a egg sac
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Message 200 of 263 (879549)
07-17-2020 11:43 PM


kleinman has 11 published papers, and you guys talk to him like he's a tin-foil hat. no wonder the discourse on this site is stale.

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Message 204 of 263 (879559)
07-18-2020 7:32 AM
Reply to: Message 201 by PaulK
07-18-2020 12:14 AM


i found his academic profiles. he does have 11 published papers

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Message 260 of 263 (879674)
07-19-2020 10:10 PM


judging that kleinman is the only one who accomplished something academic on this site, i guess we have accomplished nothing. the ignorance and ad-hominem attacks directed at creationists on this site is spell-binding. there are more users who haven't posted in 4000+ days than the active user base.
but i don't like to judge. i am washed in the blood of Christ. i don't believe ANYONE could possibly make a positive impact on this site.
all that's left is the detritus of society, low-level edgy atheist trolls and of course the human genocide party neo-libs, upset that a God fearing man became president.
Donald Trump is the greatest president in history, and you hate to see it. Melania is die hard Roman Catholic, and you hate to see it.
Your community of Christ-lover-haters is on the way out.
Your theory is on the way out.
But if you excuse me, I have a wedding to catch. Christ is the groom and the Church is the bride.
Have mercy on me,a O God,
according to Your loving devotion;
according to Your great compassion,
blot out my transgressions.
2Wash me clean of my iniquity
and cleanse me from my sin.
3For I know my transgressions,
and my sin is always before me.
4Against You, You only, have I sinned
and done what is evil in Your sight,
so that You may be proved right when You speak
and blameless when You judge.b
5Surely I was brought forth in iniquity;
I was sinful when my mother conceived me.
6Surely You desire truth in the inmost being;
You teach me wisdom in the inmost place.
7Purify me with hyssop, and I will be clean;
wash me, and I will be whiter than snow.
8Let me hear joy and gladness;
let the bones You have crushed rejoice.
9Hide Your face from my sins
and blot out all my iniquities.
10Create in me a clean heart, O God,
and renew a right spirit within me.
11Cast me not away from Your presence;
take not Your Holy Spirit from me.
12Restore to me the joy of Your salvation,
and sustain me with a willing spirit.
13Then I will teach transgressors Your ways,
and sinners will return to You.
14Deliver me from bloodguilt, O God,
the God of my salvation,
and my tongue will sing of Your righteousness.
15O Lord, open my lips,
and my mouth will declare Your praise.
16For You do not delight in sacrifice, or I would bring it;
You take no pleasure in burnt offerings.
17The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit;
a broken and a contrite heart,
O God, You will not despise.
18In Your good pleasure, cause Zion to prosper;
build up the walls of Jerusalem.
19Then You will delight in righteous sacrifices,
in whole burnt offerings;
then bulls will be offered on Your altar.
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