What have we accomplished?

No, I don't say that. I just say I have some science qualifications. I don't say that kleinman, you say that and I'm not interested in it. I don't know what that means - if anything. I think you're a Christian because you've mentioned that you're prepared to quote from the bible. Am I wrong? I'd rather work from fact than conjecture.And you don't have to wonder about whether I'm an atheist or not, I am. And my atheism has nothing to do with evolution. Something like that yes, but you don't appear to accept speciation - merely changes within species. Is that right? I didn't ask that, I just ask whether you think the earth is young or old. It's quite a simple question to answer. I think it's old, what do you think?

I'm an atheist...blaming god doesn't really work for me. Again, am I supposed to not notice you changing the subject and avoiding a direct question? I really don't care if you're a lapsed pagan; I'm just asking what your beliefs are - if any. You are terribly confused about this. How do you think an atheist can blame god for anything? That's an incredibly disingenuous answer. I don't believe it for a minute. You seriously have no opinion about whether the earth is billions of years old or 6,000? Really? I was under the impression that you thought yourself a scientist?So despite all your words, you've told me nothing about your religious beliefs, nor answered my question about speciation. Why so shy?

As you pointed out, but did not register, I said according to your book... It's not my book, you do understand the difference? I was pointing out that the god in the book is a genocidal murderer and gave the example of him flooding the earth and killing pretty much everything on it. I did not say that I believed it. But I am wondering if you did. Do you? And you'll notice that this thread is not about that. You seem to want to say the same stuff in every thread you enter regardless of its topic. I don't believe in evil - it's a religious concept and I'm an atheist. But you're deflecting again. Oh, it's definitely disingenuous and you know it. No one comes to this forum without an opinion on that. Had you genuinely not thought about it and being a real scientist you'd simply say that the scientific consensus is that the earth is old so until something comes along to point out anything different I'll go with that. But nope you're in full shields up mode. Well I must have missed something, humour me, tell me again. Are you a Christian? If so which sort? If not what faith group do you belong to?This thread is not about evolution or maths, but I would like you to answer my question about speciation because it might help me understand where you're coming from. Why haven't you?

I wonder, will you ever answer a straight question with a straight answer? Your reply is the usual repetitive deflection and evasion.I'm forced to conclude that you are a Young Earth Christian, a special creationist and that you believe that the flood was a real event.But please, correct me if I'm wrong.

By answering them. They're really simple questions that do not involve mathematics or science. They're about your beliefs. Or how about you do that in one of the many other threads you're posting in and leave this one to talk about other things? Is that possible for you? I'm not interested in your physics and mathematics of evolution, I'm not qualified to participate - others are, I'll leave it to them. Here I'm trying to talk to you about beliefs. And you're avoiding it. I have to wonder why.So you don't deny that you are a special creationist YEC and a biblical literalist. OK, that explains quite a lot, thank you I think.

And then you don't.That's ok, we now know you to be the usual dishonest creationist only you have the added dishonour of not having the courage or conviction of your beliefs.Your cock has crowed more than three times. You should be ashamed of yourself.

And you have had many more chances to declare your beliefs but you're denying your Christ right now aren't you?You're yet another creationist crank, special only because you're too ashamed of your beliefs to admit to them here.

Thanks, I'm done.