The Great Depression No One Talks About

Months ago when COVID 19 was just arriving in America, there were forecasts of a probable "Great Depression" level of unemployment and that aside from 30% unemployment we would face a struggling economy for many years. Just over a month ago, this came out in the news:"Its Official: The Recession Is Here, But Is Likely To Be Brief".I suspect that the media is being manipulated to a degree as to how tyhey choose to word the stories and the effect on morale for the general population.Now, the big news appears to be another round of "stimulus checks".My question is basically this: It does not take a rocket scientist (nor an economist) to see what is going on. We are in a giant game of musical chairs. As long as everybody keeps playing, the money keeps moving. Once the music stops, however...perhaps 5 out of 25 people will even have a chair to sit on (or money in their pocket). I dont know what magic bag of tricks the Federal Reserve has at their disposal nor the Treasury, but I am no dummy...when you "create 3 trillion dollars out of thin air, the repercussions will reverberate. As our Uncle Jar says, "The Bill Will Get Paid."And at another level, as long as Global Confidence remains toward the US Dollar, that music keeps playing also...but what on earth would occur should the other nations want to pen their hopes on another currency? Or two or three? And what if someone like Trump wants to pull the dollar out of that consensus? So many what if's. I confess I have anxiety over money and security.I already showed everyone the protests in Denver and I see the repercussions of expanded unemployment and homelessness at my store, where two thousand a day goes out the door by shoplifting. It is only getting worse, and what irks me is that these people could care less about my needs as an employee. The hours are getting cut and i'm mad quite frankly. I feel as if the police need to be strengthened and not defunded.

The following comments were made in an earlier topic. United States Debt Default. I notice then that we were talking when the debt was officially around 14 trillion dollars.
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jars comment back then: And then an onimous post by xongsmith:
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Current US Debt: As of May 1, 2020 federal debt held by the public was $19.05 trillion and intragovernmental holdings were $5.9 trillion, for a total national debt of $24.95 trillion.

Nobody is quibbling about spending. The debt limit is getting raised to provide stimulus.

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I have two comments.First, spending in a time of economic difficulty is sensible even if it drives up the debt. The trick is to reduce the debt in more prosperous times.Second, it seems appallingly uncharitable to deal with the newly homeless by having the police move them on. The more so if you just want them inflicted on someone else. True they probably don’t care about your needs. But to them you’re sitting comfortably.

Fool!

I realize that we are going through trying times. Heck, that darn hurricane is just another added expense that must be paid.But you always tell me that I dont think through the implications of things. I know that the government is trying to keep everybody as comfortable as possible. Im just worried that the eventual bill will be so big that virtually everyone will be responsible for it...which is currently over $400,000.00 per person. How do you honestly think that we will all get out of that? Aside from hyperinflation.

LOLStop believing in the idiots you follow.It really is that simple.No problem gets solved by using violent suppression. Even World War II was finally solved by negotiation and by addressing the needs of the people for food, clothing, shelter, dignity.Adding more police will never address any of the causes for shoplifting.Until we stop the really stupid Law & Order Crap all we will do is make life worse.But then that seems to be what you want.

I just want the flagrant anarchy to stop. Its spelled out quite plainly in the 10 commandments. Don't steal. And yet these social welfare misfits seem to think its their entitlement.

So it is once again only about how you feel!Can you see a pattern?Has your store requested the police to suppress the shoplifters?And I notice that yet again when we get down to what is really bugging you it is NOT the Great Depression or National Debt but Phat's feelings of entitlement.

im griping about their sense of entitlement not mine. I work for what i get and the behavior of the masses threatens to pull more of us overboard.

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im griping about their sense of entitlement not mine

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Exactly.

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I work for what i get and the behavior of the masses threatens to pull more of us overboard.

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I’m sure that a lot of the people you want moved on aren’t thieves and would love the opportunity to work for a living.

Correct; YOUR entitlement is jess fine.Got it!

OK, OK I see both of your points. I am a whiner and a spoiled (old)brat. But I think that what scares me about the possibility of a Great Depression is the idea that any one of us could become homeless and on the streets just as these people are. And that scares me. I'm too old to fight for my spot. I'm too old to even be able to get as strong as I want to get.Of course my daily prayers help a lot--people can laugh at my "invisible friend" but He is very real to me and I want you guys to know that He won't let me be too selfish or authoritarian, yet He may have to take care of this old man at some point. This whole ideological resolve to get back to the Democratic ideals may well not work when the country is virtually and practically broke. Unless, of course the music continues to play---both globally and nationally. The money itself says it: In God We Trust. The reality, however, in an economic sense is that it is the perceived value of the money that we must trust in, for without that, all we have is a lot of green toilet paper.

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OK, OK I see both of your points. I am a whiner and a spoiled (old)brat. But I think that what scares me about the possibility of a Great Depression is the idea that any one of us could become homeless and on the streets just as these people are. And that scares me. I'm too old to fight for my spot. I'm too old to even be able to get as strong as I want to get.

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My point is that you should have more sympathy for those who have lost their jobs and homes. If there is another Great Depression, they’re the victims not the cause. The stimulus is not something you should be objecting to either, since it’s keeping things from getting worse.Which would you prefer - losing your job or keeping it but having to pay a little more in tax?

And beware the conmen saving you money, for example by stopping the payroll tax.Yup, today's paycheck may get a little bigger but Social Security, Unemployment and Medicare would disappear.Taxes are not bad. In fact the places with a far higher quality of life than the US also have higher taxes.

Just an anecdote: So it grinds my gears a bit when you talk about a "Great Depression" today. The social(ist) programs that were brought in to alleviate the Great Depression. Push for more socialism.