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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
Do you think it's time for Biden's team to officially name his running mate? Yes, but in predictable fashion to the obvious pandering his administration said that they specifically want to select a woman of color. I guess we're only basing jobs on a discriminatory manner, err, in the interest of eradicating discrimination altogether. As we all know, the only way to eradicate racism and sexism is by doing a bunch of racist and sexist shit. I mean, fight fire with fire, amirite? Works for the fire department so why --- no? Oh, fight fire with water? Hmmm... Counterintuitive, but, okay. "Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids." -- Joe Biden
There's a better chance that this VP nominee WILL be running the White House either as president or behind-the-scenes fill in concerning Biden's age alone. I think it's time for the voters and analyzers to know who it is NOW. I don't think they even know. Pretty sure they were vetting Kamala Harris until they replayed footage of some pretty nasty exchanges.
The news media never criticizes or questions Biden about anything. Wouldn't it be nice if they'd pressure him to get this done? If he can't make this decision, how effective will he make time-sensitive decisions as president? Everybody knows, Democrats included, that Uncle Joe's days are numbered and that he's not fit to run a senior citizen shuffleboard tournament much less the United States of America. They don't really care as long as Trump isn't reelected. They also know that if they end up picking a Sarah Palin-esque candidate, its all going to backfire and Trump will get reelected. So I think they are really being cautious about who they are picking, especially since they've stupidly narrowed down their candidate pool by basing it on race and gender and not qualification."Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 622 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
I'm sure there is no shortage of idiots considering voting for either Joe Biden or Donald Trump (or Howie Hawkins or Jo Jorgensen or Andrew Yang for that matter).
But if your aim is to persuade me, then you're going about it the wrong way, digressing into the Clintonesque ("basket of deplorables") or Obaman (bitter clingers) style. People tend to react negatively to that: if his supporters are such lowlives, what does that say about the candidate! On the other hand, if your goal really is just being insulting then you need to work on more clever phrasing (consult Christopher Hitchens' God is not Great for some particularly juicy rhetoric). Have a nice day!
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Sarah Bellum writes:
No. If somebody has even considered voting for Trump, there's no reasoning with them. But if your aim is to persuade me..."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
He boxed himself in promising to have a female VP nominee. Not that I'm against women running for office! But with all the urban unrest he will also be pressured to nominate a person of color. Fine, Condoleeza Rice it is That actually wouldn't be too bad of a strategy. It would probably draw over every swing voter and a very large portion of the Republican Party, pretty much sealing the coffin for Trump. If Biden picked her I'd pull the trigger for him... but you know she's a sane and rational person so that'll never happen. "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 622 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
Indeed? Well, the more people like you, the more likely Trump is to be re-elected, no?
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 622 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
Well, there's always weird possibilities in the presidential sweepstakes.
Think of this, in, say, 1998, most of the people eventually to be elected President or even running for President in the next couple of decades would have been dismissed as obscure or fringe. Joe Biden fit right in with the extremely obscure Democrat mainstream, pro-Defense of Marriage, anti-Busing, political hackery. But now . . . the days of seriousness, of Roosevelt, of Eisenhower, of Johnson (dreadful, but at least serious!), of Reagan, are far in the past, so who knows what may happen in November?
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Sarah Bellum writes:
If everybody was like me, Trump wouldn't get a single vote. Well, the more people like you, the more likely Trump is to be re-elected, no?"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Sarah Bellum writes:
I would think that the ability to change his mind would be a good quality in a president. Joe Biden fit right in with the extremely obscure Democrat mainstream, pro-Defense of Marriage, anti-Busing...."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 622 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
Carried to 100% that would indeed be true. But that's not what I said, of course.
I was referring to the marginal case where increasing the number of people with your emphasis on repelling possible Biden voters rather than attracting them might just decrease the number of Biden voters so much that the net result would be a loss of voters for Mr. Biden. Don't get me wrong, I can read the opinion polls and can see that Biden, four months out, is leading. And if he does win, it certainly appears he'll be a better President than any Democrat in my lifetime. But you're wasting all these opportunities to persuade me, rather than confirm the depressing image of current Biden supporters.
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 622 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
Oh indeed, and I am glad that he has changed his positions as he scented the direction of the wind. But he still has to run on his record in addition to his promises.
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Sarah Bellum writes:
I can't make any sense of that sentence.
I was referring to the marginal case where increasing the number of people with your emphasis on repelling possible Biden voters rather than attracting them might just decrease the number of Biden voters so much that the net result would be a loss of voters for Mr. Biden. Sarah Bellum writes:
In my lifetime, the only two decent Republicans have been Eisenhower and Ford.
Don't get me wrong, I can read the opinion polls and can see that Biden, four months out, is leading. And if he does win, it certainly appears he'll be a better President than any Democrat in my lifetime. Sarah Bellum writes:
As I said, I wouldn't try to persuade you. But you're wasting all these opportunities to persuade me...."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Sarah Bellum writes:
There's a difference. Trump has to run on his record as President - i.e. on real facts. Biden only has to run against innuendo. But he still has to run on his record in addition to his promises."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 622 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
You said
quote:and I agree that's true. But I was talking about having more people like you, rather than having everyone like you (a rather unlikely case). Let me break it down for you with a simple case. Suppose there were one more person like you. That would be one more vote for Vice President Biden. But if, as seems likely, that one more person were to "debate" in your style it might just persuade more than one voter to switch their vote to President Trump. Remember, President Trump is in the White House because he persuaded quite a few people who voted for President Obama to vote for him instead of Hillary Clinton. Vice President Biden has to perform a similar task if he wishes an inauguration as a belated seventy-eighth birthday present.
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 622 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
Innuendo? Before Vice President Biden was Vice President he did get involved with some other things, remember? Here's a quote from the LA Times
quote:Of course this article is overall quite favorable to Vice President Biden, so he may be able to persuade voters to ignore his record.
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Sarah Bellum writes:
It has nothing to do with my debate style. But if, as seems likely, that one more person were to "debate" in your style it might just persuade more than one voter to switch their vote to President Trump."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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