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vimesey
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Message 3950 of 4573 (876585)
05-23-2020 11:56 AM
Reply to: Message 3949 by GDR
05-23-2020 11:03 AM


I know what you mean - our last choice was between Boris and Corbyn :-/
I wonder if New Zealand would be willing to hire out Jacinda Ardern ?

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Message 3965 of 4573 (876737)
05-26-2020 11:31 PM
Reply to: Message 3964 by JonF
05-26-2020 7:31 PM


Re: Twitter attaches a fact check to Trump tweets
And from the BBC story on that:
In his new tweets, Mr Trump accused Twitter of interfering in the US presidential election scheduled for 3 November 2020.
He said that the social media company was "completely stifling free speech, and I, as president, will not allow it to happen".
The irony is strong with this one.

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Message 3978 of 4573 (877064)
06-03-2020 5:24 AM


Who’da thought ?
One of Trump’s tweets:
You got it wrong! If the protesters were so peaceful, why did they light the Church on fire the night before? People liked my walk.
It’s all revealed at the end, isn’t it ? Screw George Floyd - screw racism - screw police brutality - this is all about how I look.

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Message 3996 of 4573 (877285)
06-10-2020 11:37 PM
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06-10-2020 8:34 PM


Re: Trump will not even consider renaming US military bases named after Confederates.
In that regard, according to the BBC News website:
He tweeted that the facilities were part of "a Great American heritage".
It’s pretty hard not to interpret that as saying that the existence, leadership and defence of the slave owning South was part of a Great American heritage.

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vimesey
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Message 3998 of 4573 (877289)
06-11-2020 2:24 AM
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06-11-2020 1:46 AM


Re: Trump will not even consider renaming US military bases named after Confederates.
No chance of that :-)

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Message 4000 of 4573 (877292)
06-11-2020 4:44 AM
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06-11-2020 2:52 AM


Re: Trump will not even consider renaming US military bases named after Confederates.
The history of Britain has been blighted by the most spectacular arrogance, elitism and brutality, dressed up as enlightened civilisation. For centuries, we used the sheer fluke of being at the forefront of the industrial revolution to pillage, subjugate, steal, rape and murder people in far off places, all in the belief that we were "bringing civilisation " to them. It's an arrogance that persists today.
And you're right, that arrogance was shown when Georgey boy and his people assumed that they could subdue anyone by sending out a few regiments and killing a bunch of people. It didn't work in the States (though to my great sadness, it did elsewhere, for many years).
I am not proud of this country's imperialism. They were more brutal times, and there has to be some context in that regard, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't feel shame for it today, in more enlightened times.
And on a more general note, I would agree that history sees us repeating a great many mistakes. The one I am really worried about is the rise of populism in many countries (the UK and the US at the top of the list). Some deeply disturbing parallels with what happened in the 1920s and 1930s in Europe.

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Message 4018 of 4573 (877574)
06-18-2020 3:59 PM
Reply to: Message 4017 by Trump won
06-18-2020 3:33 PM


It’s so encouraging to see certifiable loons endorsing Trump :-)

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vimesey
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Message 4022 of 4573 (877594)
06-19-2020 2:34 AM
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06-18-2020 5:35 PM


What’s useful is that swing voters can get to see this sort of stuff. Who, amongst those swing voters, would feel comfortable sharing an opinion with someone whose hat collection must be keeping tin foil manufacturers in business ?

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Message 4052 of 4573 (877894)
06-23-2020 4:26 AM
Reply to: Message 4050 by Trump won
06-23-2020 3:29 AM


Re: Bolton = the very best!
atheism is a cognitive disability
You’ll be able to provide some evidence for that statement then ?
Or is it another WAA (Wild Ass Assertion).
[Quite liking the WAA acronym - if you read it as a word, it has an appropriate ring to it].

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Message 4059 of 4573 (877947)
06-23-2020 3:45 PM
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06-23-2020 2:21 PM


Re: Bolton = the very best!
You do realise that the article is taking the piss out of the paper, don’t you ?

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Message 4064 of 4573 (877974)
06-24-2020 7:53 AM
Reply to: Message 4063 by Trump won
06-24-2020 6:41 AM


Re: Gosharootie, I'm surprised
This is an interesting quotation from Churchill:
Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.
I have no doubt that the US and the UK democratic systems play host to a level of corruption and venality which is repugnant. And candidates get selected by vested interests more than by the people.
But you make the mistake of thinking that because Trump exists outside this system, he is amazing. And that means you have to stick your fingers in your ears, shout "lalalalalala" and pretend that all of the evil, the lies, the hatred, the incompetence and the sheer stupidity that vomits out of his mouth are "false news".
Just because democracy is not perfect, does not mean that evil dictatorship is better.

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Message 4126 of 4573 (879135)
07-12-2020 2:46 AM
Reply to: Message 4124 by Trump won
07-12-2020 12:13 AM


Re: a picture worth a reelection
So if by your logic, one photo of Trump wearing a mask is worth a vote, the numerous pictures of Biden wearing a mask must be worth more votes, yes ?

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Message 4145 of 4573 (879878)
07-24-2020 7:14 AM
Reply to: Message 4144 by AZPaul3
07-24-2020 5:04 AM


Re: US Federal Brownshirts
In that regard Paul, this is an interesting (and fairly short) read: How Did the Nazis Gain Power in Germany? - The New York Times
I keep banging this drum, I know, but I like to drive home to as many of our readers as I can, that if we don’t learn from our historical mistakes, we are condemned to repeat them. And Trump’s supporters don’t realise just how extensively they’re repeating the mistakes which led to the rise of Nazism.
As mistakes go, there’s none bigger.

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Message 4211 of 4573 (880160)
07-30-2020 9:50 AM


The first step.
And so it begins....
Donald Trump suggests delay to 2020 US presidential election - BBC News

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vimesey
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Message 4272 of 4573 (881240)
08-20-2020 1:17 PM
Reply to: Message 4271 by PaulK
08-20-2020 12:51 PM


Re: Bannon arrested for fraud
Might be interesting to see what Bannon has on Trump, that he could bargain with.

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