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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 624 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
This does disturb me, though. My own outlook is very much the "secular humanist, atheist." I've pretty much ignored the protestations of faith from the various Presidential candidates because I knew they were purely ceremonial, no more to be taken seriously an invocation at the opening of Congress or, "God Save The United States and This Honorable Court" at the start of a Supreme Court session.
But I worry because sometimes these protestations of faith cause politicians to make decisions that cause real damage, like when then-Senator Joe Biden voted for the Defense of Marriage Act. Thank you (Reagan appointee) Justice Kennedy for Obergefell v. Hodges by the way.
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Sarah Bellum writes:
If he's going to judge my point of view based on whether or not I noticed he was fat, he's not the man for the job. Instead of trying to persuade him, I'd try to get rid of him.
going up to someone like, say, Representative Jerry Nadler, and saying, "Hey, you're fat!" (even though I suspect he knows he is) would indeed be insulting, and wouldn't help to persuade him to your point of view. Sarah Bellum writes:
I'm not convinced that you're stupid enough to vote for Trump.
I do like the "probably" in your post, though. Does that mean you think I might vote for Vice President Biden... Sarah Bellum writes:
I don't think anybody is capable of persuading you. As my father used to say about some people, "Don't confuse them with facts."
... but you think yourself incapable of persuading me... Sarah Bellum writes:
I do try to stick to nice,comfortable insults. The truly stupid people don't understand them anyway. ... so you stick to nice, comfortable insults?"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Sarah Bellum writes:
Obama's elections were pretty inspiring. The last few elections haven't been very inspiring, have they?"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 624 days) Posts: 826 Joined:
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Would it inspire you to work harder at political persuasion if you considered this fact:
The Democrat hope is a man who has survived two brain aneurysms and sexual assault allegations, a straight white male who has opposed marriage equality and supported segregation, a man whose treatment of Anita Hill when he was Chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee he was forced to apologize for belatedly, a man who will, if he is inaugurated, be older than President Reagan was on the day he left office on inauguration day.
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Sarah Bellum writes:
I said I wouldn't try to persuade YOU. Would it inspire you to work harder at political persuasion...."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 624 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
I'm curious. Would you prefer that I vote for President Trump just so, assuming he is defeated as the opinion polls appear to show is likely (just like the polls in 2016 showed), you can gloat?
Or would you prefer that I vote for Vice President Biden because you think he is the better option?
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Sarah Bellum writes:
My preference is irrelevant. Would you prefer that I vote for President Trump...."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 624 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
They were indeed. An indication of the American will to put the "bitter" legacy of racial strife and tribalism of the "deplorables" in the past, moving on build a glorious future of harmony in the years of his administration and that we are experiencing even now.
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 624 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
You could prefer to try to persuade me, possibly moving me off the fence. Remember, so many recent elections were decided by such a tiny margin of votes that even persuading one voter could have a surprising effect.
I often think if the Gore campaign's operatives had taken a little less vituperative tone in Florida it might have made a great deal of difference to 21st century world history.
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Sarah Bellum writes:
You're making my point. I have said that I don't think you can be reasoned with. It doesn't look like you're even reading my posts. You could prefer to try to persuade me, possibly moving me off the fence."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 624 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
If the polling were to show 37% for Trump and 49% against and the remainder undecided Bloomberg - Are you a robot? then in your opinion (combining Trump voters and undecideds) fifty-one percent of the US population are idiots!
I may vote for Vice President Biden in November, but if I thought he had your attitude towards Americans I certainly wouldn't. I don't think he does, but that remark about Black voters who might dare to vote against him ("You ain't Black!") does give me pause.
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Sarah Bellum writes:
... in your opinion (combining Trump voters and undecideds) fifty-one percent of the US population are idiots!quote: "I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 624 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
More insults? And not even your own insults but copied from someone else? A not-so-subtle whiff of the Biden campaign!
Oh, well: "A man who is not a Liberal at sixteen has no heart; a man who is not a Conservative at sixty has no head."Benjamin Disraeli Did that quote convince you to change your mind? Thought not.
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Sarah Bellum writes:
Just to demonstrate that I am not alone in my assessment. And not even your own insults but copied from someone else? And I think I have mentioned before that a fat man doesn't really have a right to be "insulted" if somebody notices that he's fat.
Sarah Bellum writes:
Note that Disraeli was a Conservative. "A man who is not a Liberal at sixteen has no heart; a man who is not a Conservative at sixty has no head."Benjamin Disraeli "I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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Sarah Bellum Member (Idle past 624 days) Posts: 826 Joined: |
Do you really believe that if you're at some social gathering and in your conversation you make a point of mentioning to someone that they are fat, they would have no reason to take offense?
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