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Hyroglyphx
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Message 136 of 271 (880478)
08-06-2020 1:24 PM
Reply to: Message 134 by Sarah Bellum
08-06-2020 9:31 AM


Re: The Lesser of Evil is still evil
The candidates are always egged on to profess their faith (or, in the case of President Obama, to dispel rumors about their faith) that it's nice to see a candidate who is clearly making gestures that are purely ceremonial, in the style of an invocation at the beginning of a town meeting or someone saying "Bless you!" after a sneeze.
I would like a president to stand by the sentiment that they would rather be hated for who they are than loved for what they're not.

"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine

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Message 137 of 271 (880479)
08-06-2020 1:30 PM
Reply to: Message 136 by Hyroglyphx
08-06-2020 1:24 PM


Re: The Lesser of Evil is still evil
It's politics. The Clintons had to pretend to be a devoted couple (though why should a failed marriage be a detriment to a political reputation?) and President Obama had to pretend to be tolerant, at least in public, of people he considered "bitter clingers" (though why should a negative view of religion, especially in a country like the USA which separates religion from the state, be a detriment to a political reputation?)

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 138 of 271 (880482)
08-06-2020 2:26 PM
Reply to: Message 137 by Sarah Bellum
08-06-2020 1:30 PM


Re: The Lesser of Evil is still evil
It's politics. The Clintons had to pretend to be a devoted couple (though why should a failed marriage be a detriment to a political reputation?)
I wouldn't even call it a failed marriage. I don't believe that was ever a real marriage. She's a closeted lesbian and he's a womanizer. They both knew it from the get-go and it provided them with a cover story while they both slept around but they also recognized the ambition they both had. Marriage, no. Political alliance, yes.
President Obama had to pretend to be tolerant, at least in public, of people he considered "bitter clingers" (though why should a negative view of religion, especially in a country like the USA which separates religion from the state, be a detriment to a political reputation?)
Because America has had a sordid history with Islam, starting as far back as Tripoli.

"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine

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Message 139 of 271 (880485)
08-06-2020 2:41 PM
Reply to: Message 138 by Hyroglyphx
08-06-2020 2:26 PM


Re: The Lesser of Evil is still evil
That would explain why he would distance himself from the taint of Islam, but why should a politician be afraid to say that religion, in general, has been a negative force?
Oh, right, politics

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ringo
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Message 140 of 271 (880549)
08-07-2020 12:40 PM
Reply to: Message 135 by Hyroglyphx
08-06-2020 1:21 PM


Hyroglyphx writes:
Because of our stupid two-party system. Most nations have multiple choices because that's the sensible thing to do.
We're talking about reality here. The choice you have IS one or the other.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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Message 141 of 271 (880572)
08-07-2020 5:00 PM


trump's going to scorch biden in the debates
scorched earth policy
this guy's getting torched.
flame on, trump. flame on.

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Message 142 of 271 (880669)
08-09-2020 8:52 AM
Reply to: Message 141 by Trump won
08-07-2020 5:00 PM


Doing the Job
I might point out that the job of the President (and all others in a political position) may be challenging.
Biden is a Catholic and has beliefs about what is right and wrong that derives from that.
Biden is also a patriotic American.
As a senator (and anyone as president) has sworn to uphold the constitution.
To impose his personal religious beliefs on others would violate the constitution. This is what makes the job challenging for him. If you expect him to ignore the constitution or you won't vote for him then you are utterly unamerican.
Trump reading from a prepared script looks a fool. In any debate he will splutter and waffle and lose track of himself before finishing a sentence (if he ever manages to finish a whole sentence).
Have you ever actually listened to the man? Ever?

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Message 143 of 271 (880682)
08-09-2020 11:39 AM



  
dwise1
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Message 144 of 271 (880684)
08-09-2020 12:14 PM
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08-07-2020 5:00 PM


scorched earth policy
That is exactly what we fear, that when Trump loses the election (especially if it's really bigly) and all his attempts to invalidate the results so that he can steal the election fail (also bigly) then he will respond by destroying the country and the world far more than he already has.
We've profiled his mental illness, so we know that he cannot deal with losing like he will -- indeed, we are seeing that play out in real time as his prospects for re-election continue to plummet. He has proven to be a psychopath who does not care what he does in retaliation -- every possible social norm that no sane person would ever even dream of violating, he violates without a single thought three times before breakfast. There are no limits to what he might do. Declare martial law? Order the arrest of his opponents? Launch a nuke at one of his favorite enemies? -- though whether it would be Iran, Angela Merkel, or California, or New York is a toss-up.
The very best that we could hope for would for Trump to pull another Sharpie reality change and plead "sour grapes", that he did not want to be re-elected anyway. Of course, the White House will shift into overdrive destroying as much of the evidence of their criminality as possible. Also, since he will be vulnerable to arrest for his many crimes on Inauguration Day (what are the Las Vegas odds on him not even attending the ceremony?), it is very likely that he will flee the country to escape prosecution. Very likely before Inauguration Day, maybe one last overseas trip that ends with Air Force One landing and staying in Russia (no doubt with as much classified material as Trump could lay his grubby tiny hands on to make a nice present for his beloved Puti).
Remember that 03 November (plus to get all the counts in) will not be the end of this existential nightmare. After his resounding defeat, we will still have to survive nearly 80 days of the most massive and destructive public temper tantrum imaginable. And a scorched earth policy is exactly what a lunatic like Trump would deploy.
flame on, trump. flame on.
And you are going to cheer on the destruction that Trump will cause. Wow. You really have hit rock bottom and now you've started to dig. Why do you hate America so much?

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 145 of 271 (880706)
08-09-2020 5:39 PM
Reply to: Message 144 by dwise1
08-09-2020 12:14 PM


Catholic school is vicious as Roman Rule
he cannot deal with losing like he will -- indeed, we are seeing that play out in real time as his prospects for re-election continue to plummet.
He has already stated that he expects voter fraud thereby giving him the ability to later say, "Oh, I've been talking about this since the campaign trail." But never mind that he was elected greatly in part by Russian collusion.... that's a different kind of voter fraud.
He has proven to be a psychopath who does not care what he does in retaliation -- every possible social norm that no sane person would ever even dream of violating, he violates without a single thought three times before breakfast. There are no limits to what he might do.
In fairness he must listen to his team somewhat, because if he actually did half the shit he says on Twitter there would have been a nuclear holocaust by now. Imagine how exhausting it must be trying to persuade the president to not nuke North Korea on a daily basis.
Declare martial law? Order the arrest of his opponents? Launch a nuke at one of his favorite enemies? -- though whether it would be Iran, Angela Merkel, or California, or New York is a toss-up.
If the Constitution wasn't around to suppress him he would absolutely be a Caligula.
And you are going to cheer on the destruction that Trump will cause. Wow. You really have hit rock bottom and now you've started to dig. Why do you hate America so much?
He's Roman Catholic.... he thinks Roman rule still reigns supreme... you know, the people that murdered Jesus. The people that persecuted the early church? Yeah, those people....

"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine

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Trump won 
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Message 146 of 271 (880723)
08-10-2020 1:58 PM
Reply to: Message 144 by dwise1
08-09-2020 12:14 PM


I love Jesus. He loves the will of the Father. God hates abortion. Therefore I am aligned with trump and Christ and we will defeat. Sleepy fake catholic Joe.

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Message 147 of 271 (880725)
08-10-2020 2:19 PM
Reply to: Message 146 by Trump won
08-10-2020 1:58 PM


How could you possibly love Jesus or the Christ and at the same time align with Trump who is of the Lord of Lies, thus aligning yourself with Satan?
By aligning with Trump and Satan, in your heart you actually hate God, Christ, and Jesus.
And above all you hate America. Why do you hate America so much that you would love to see it burn?
Who's the real "fake catholic" here? Look in the mirror.

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Message 148 of 271 (880726)
08-10-2020 3:57 PM
Reply to: Message 147 by dwise1
08-10-2020 2:19 PM


Funny

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Message 149 of 271 (880729)
08-10-2020 5:06 PM
Reply to: Message 145 by Hyroglyphx
08-09-2020 5:39 PM


Re: Catholic school is vicious as Roman Rule
If the Constitution wasn't around to suppress him he would absolutely be a Caligula.
The Constitution can do absolutely no good unless it is enforced, supported, and defended. For that, we need the very institutions that Trump has been systematically destroying.
For a historic example, consider the constitution for the Weimar Republic (1920-1945). It was one of the most enlightened and progressive constitutions and it officially remained in effect throughout the Nazi era (1933-1945). The reason why it did not stop the Nazis is because, once Hitler was able to invoke its emergency powers, it was not enforced.
Our Constitution cannot possibly protect us against Trump unless we enforce it.

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Message 150 of 271 (880735)
08-10-2020 11:27 PM
Reply to: Message 142 by NosyNed
08-09-2020 8:52 AM


Re: Doing the Job
Nosy nonplayercharacter Ned
Biden is patriotic ? I guess to Libs selling out the country is patriotic.
I wouldn't bother responding to this drivel but The Unborn lives are calling for help. Trump is the only one that can help them Biden is not a Catholic he has never been a Catholic he's a total piece of s*** and most of Catholic laity understand and see that

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