Did the Flood really happen?

To put numbers to this, a couple of review papers that pop up on the first page when you google granite permeability give numbers well down in the nanodarcy range, with a few ranging up to ten microdarcies or so. These numbers are in the very bottom of the range of permeabilities of the rocks that are targeted for hydraulic fracturing these days - where you pump a few million gallons of water into a shale/sandstone to free up gas and oil. And you pump it in at 2000+ gallons per minute and typically 10,000 psi. And much of that water comes back to surface in the following few weeks.So getting water back into granite is not a trivial task. I’ve not dealt with granite specifically, Juvey, but I spent forty years in a career dealing with permeability of other rocks. I learned a little about the subject over that time. Your half-baked bullshit theories do not have wings, and are not going to fly.

If you can't tell us what a flood is, you have no business claiming that one happened.

Granite has quite amount of water because when it solidified from magma, there were overwhelmingly abundant water in the magma. The abundant water in granite only reflects extremely more abundant of free water in the magma, which will soon became water in the ocean. The high abundance of granite on the earth is proportional to the high abundance of seawater on the earth. That is the main source of water for the global flood.

I can quote what's said in the dictionary. Would you agree on that definition? Do you know what is wrong with those definitions?This is a very important concept if you ever want to truly understand the meaning of the global "flood".Why don't you just give me a dictionary definition of flood and see what I can say?

You obviously does not know anything about granite, even you seems know something about sandstone, or even shale.Since you use that dirty word on me. I am not going tell you anything you do not know.

Main stream science is still debating the origin of water on Earth, but one thing that does not get mentioned is its origin from granite.
Once again, can you please give us the evidence for water coming from granite?

You are quite right. Most of the water of the earth does not come from granite. I never said it does. On the contrary, I said many times that granite is a host rock of water on the earth. When it is made, it "takes" water in. Water can still come out of granite. But it would quickly enter other granites.Nevertheless, "wet" granite will indeed gradually lose its water and turned into "dry" granite. Have you heard a part of continent called craton? That is made of dry granite. It still contains water, but in a quite smaller amount.Notice that what I said here does not use formal geological terms. As a consequence, if you do understand, you can find some errors in it. However, I think what I said is quite safe in this forum.

I did a quick Google, just for you:

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A flood is an overflow of water that submerges land that is usually dry.

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I can live with that. They don't give you the conclusions you want?

not a fact, a claim that you've made that you've been unwilling/unable to support.

This is a better, more general one. However, it does not specify the time specifier "usually". A river has an annual high water stage. I don't think you want to call it flood. A place get flooded once every 10 years does not mean places at lower elevation covered by water once every 5 years is not a flood.The global flood only happened once. So to that definition, the global flood should not be called a flood.

It is a fact, and I did support it.

Sure you do. Even tides have a flood tide. Of course it should. ALL of the land that was usually dry was submerged (in the story, not in reality). You can't get any more floody than that.

Interesting, but pretty useless definition, But it still has problems:
If a river, or a lake dried up, and later filled with water again, by that definition you have to call it flood. That is what I mean a useless definition. And it would interfere with the definition of other terms.Also, it has the word "overflow", that pretty much excludes your tidal "flood". The submerge of shoreline can not be called as overflow of seawater, because there was no (uni-directional) "flow" before the "flood". Also, heavy rain "flooded" the city street should not be called a flood because rainfall is not a normal "flow" and there is no "overflow" of rain. Edited by Juvenissun, : No reason given.

A world wide flood has never happened in all of the planet Earths history as far as we know. If you have evidence to the contrary, please present it. Note that I stipulated that you must present "evidence".Edited by kjsimons, : No reason given.

Yes, that's exactly what we do. We have some salt lakes nearby that are flioded in wet years and dry in dry years. And yet it is. You just called it that yourself. Seems like a pretty useful definition to me.But what does any of this have to do with your supposed global flood?