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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
proudly roman catholic writes:
That would be a miracle. what if i thought"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Phat writes:
The peanut gallery will tell you to stop posting the same old same old garbage over and over day after day. Then the peanut gallery will crow loudly.... You have hundreds of unanswered posts. Go back and answer some of them. THINK and then answer some of them. We don't need to hear again and again and yet again what you believe."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
PRC writes: what if i thought, and i decided that Jesus is God? or is that bad think. Think about this. Ringo was a believer for many years and after examining the evidence he rejected Jesus Christ as a messenger, choosing only to keep the message and do what Jesus said to do. Were I a judge, I would not indict ringo for this choice, but I would say that in my opinion rejecting Jesus Christ as God is a bad think. And ringo, I usually don't answer all of the questions thrown at me because my opponents are attempting to re-frame the issue and get me to see the logic in the conclusion that they arrived at as unbelievers. But I do note your request and will attempt to go back and see my hundreds of unanswered questions and attempt to honestly respond to some of them. Do you have any particular ones that you think I should answer and not duck? List a couple here."A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** We must realize that the Reformation world view leads in the direction of government freedom. But the humanist world view with inevitable certainty leads in the direction of statism. This is so because humanists, having no god, must put something at the center, and it is inevitably society, government, or the state.- Francis A. Schaeffer The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.- Criss Jami, Killosophy
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Phat writes:
I told you just a couple of days ago that that's wrong. The message has nothing to do with Jesus. I did not choose one over the other.
... he rejected Jesus Christ as a messenger, choosing only to keep the message and do what Jesus said to do. Phat writes:
YES! ... my opponents are attempting to re-frame the issue and get me to see the logic in the conclusion that they arrived at as unbelievers. That's the whole point of discussion, isn't it?
Phat writes:
You could start with the Prodigal Son. Do you have any particular ones that you think I should answer and not duck? List a couple here."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1240 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
I have exposed this forum to genuine miracles and I have been rebuffed. It is not popular to believe in God for $2 that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and that in fact he is God but Christians have to learn to not be popular. The truth is in the gospels and it will set you free language of Jesus Christ performed proves that he he is miraculous that he is Son of God that he is God himself and he is in essence the word that he is in essence truth and by studying the Linguistics of Jesus Christ one can clearly come to the understanding that this person is divine. Two Natures human and divine.
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Chris listen to this podcast.
https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly9yemltLm9yZy9..."A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** We must realize that the Reformation world view leads in the direction of government freedom. But the humanist world view with inevitable certainty leads in the direction of statism. This is so because humanists, having no god, must put something at the center, and it is inevitably society, government, or the state.- Francis A. Schaeffer The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.- Criss Jami, Killosophy
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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1240 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
how many people have to be spontaneiously cured of cancer at lourdes before the skeptics take the knee?
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
PeoplesRepublicofChina writes: how many people have to be spontaneiously cured of cancer at lourdes before the skeptics take the knee? It would never be evidence of a miracle no matter how many alleged instances there were. Learn the basics. Learn what evidence is.
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Learn Who God is.
Learn the Source. Hint: He does not require evidence. Socratic masters do not define who the Warlord is, what He should do, what we should do, and what defines reality. They are taught or they are reprobates who refuse instruction. The error of your entire teaching is that humans define God and have a responsibility to do so. You have emphasized CONTENT over SOURCE. You need both. Edited by Phat, : No reason given."A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** We must realize that the Reformation world view leads in the direction of government freedom. But the humanist world view with inevitable certainty leads in the direction of statism. This is so because humanists, having no god, must put something at the center, and it is inevitably society, government, or the state.- Francis A. Schaeffer The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.- Criss Jami, Killosophy
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Phat writes: Learn Who God is.Learn the Source. Hint: He does not require evidence. Socratic masters do not define who the Warlord is, what He should do, what we should do, and what defines reality. They are taught or they are reprobates who refuse instruction. The error of your entire teaching is that humans define God and have a responsibility to do so. You have emphasized CONTENT over SOURCE. You need both. More utter nonsense from you Phat. Stop and think. Reread what I quoted from your post and underline the really stupid parts.
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
See the story of Thomas. Jesus offered evidence to the disciples but Thomas wasn't there. Later, when Thomas was there, Jesus offered the same evidence to him. Jesus did not have the same contempt for evidence that you have.
Hint: He does not require evidence. Phat writes:
Are you ever going to be honest? You KNOW that the content is more important than the source. You don't throw your mail away and keep the envelopes. You have emphasized CONTENT over SOURCE."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
ringo writes: Jesus is not some mere envelope. Jesus is the Creator of all seen and unseen. He is the name above every name. He is over all of the little pesky spirits of the age that plague both your intelligence and mine. He is the answer....not Trump and not Biden. Not Greta and her global warming mantras. Not socialism and a kinder gentler humanity. Are you ever going to be honest? You KNOW that the content is more important than the source. You don't throw your mail away and keep the envelopes. When are you ever going to be honest? God exists and wants a spiritual communion with humanity. Throwing away that envelope will give you a letter full of lying spirits and doctrines of demons. It may look and appear to be a good noble thing for all of us to be as one, but just as we humans could never be all as one in the day of the Tower of Babel, we wont be one now....without including (and worshiping) the SOURCE, Creator of all seen and unseen."A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** We must realize that the Reformation world view leads in the direction of government freedom. But the humanist world view with inevitable certainty leads in the direction of statism. This is so because humanists, having no god, must put something at the center, and it is inevitably society, government, or the state.- Francis A. Schaeffer The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.- Criss Jami, Killosophy
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Phat writes:
He's a fictional envelope.
Jesus is not some mere envelope. Phat writes:
So how come He doesn't give YOU some answers when you're "communing"? Why do you have to run away from every discussion?
He is the answer.... Phat writes:
If you can point out a single instance when I have been dishonest, go ahead and post it. Otherwise, you can stop playing your schoolyard I-know-you-are-but-what-am-I games.
When are you ever going to be honest? Phat writes:
Throwing away the envelope is what you do.
Throwing away that envelope will give you a letter full of lying spirits and doctrines of demons. Phat writes:
As usual, you misread the story. Humans WERE going to be as one. That's what God was afraid of. That's why He deliberately interfered and made things worse for the people. ... just as we humans could never be all as one in the day of the Tower of Babel..."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1240 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
Learn who Christ is. He is God. That is basic. Check out the shroud of Turin if you are obsessed with physical evidence.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9489 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
PRC writes: Check out the shroud of Turin if you are obsessed with physical evidence. Like all your posts, this is simply wrong. The Turin shroud is a 13th century fraud proven by carbon dating 30 years ago. Additionally, a forensic scientist examination in 2018 showed that the image on the cloth was inconsistent with a laid out corpse
quote: Just a moment... (link still works)Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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