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Taq
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Message 62 of 138 (881813)
08-31-2020 6:46 PM
Reply to: Message 60 by Phat
08-31-2020 4:00 PM


Re: The Bill will get paid
Phat writes:
Granted im not prone to believe anything based on source or authority alone, but I can intuitively see common sense when I read it. Here are three:
1) Newslatter from Stansbury Research:
I see a lot of false conservative tropes. For example, Medicare isn't free, the VA has good healthcare (my dad speaks highly of it), you can still have a successful career and accomplishment alongside socialism, megacorporations get direct subsidies from the government yet they are never criticized (see Exon), and paying for university is no longer possible for many so people are often stuck in an economic class without a viable way to get out.
The best way to give regular citizens a shot in life is socialism. It allows regular people to not go bankrupt when they get sick. It offers a safety net that allows them to find new work instead of being homeless. It can offer affordable education so that people can advance in society. What do we see from conservatives? More tax cuts from the rich and attacks on the very programs that can improve the lives of regular citizens.
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Message 68 of 138 (881827)
09-01-2020 12:05 PM
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08-31-2020 9:03 PM


Re: The Bill will get paid
Phat writes:
you do have a point. i fear socialism because few of them trust Jesus...trusting humanity inatead.
It seems that you fear democracy because democracy puts trust in humanity.
If you buy private health insurance, are you putting your trust in humanity? Does God run Blue Shield and Blue Cross?

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Taq
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Message 72 of 138 (881839)
09-01-2020 4:21 PM
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09-01-2020 3:23 PM


Re: The Bill will get paid
Phat writes:
What I have told you time and time again that I fear is for the middle class to be forced to join with the poor impoverished masses that you so want to liftup.
So it's about the money?
In case you were wondering, First World economies with socialized medicine pay half of what the US does on medical care. HALF!!!
Or better yet, just ask a group of retirees (pensioners for you Brits) if they want Medicare to go away and have to pay for private insurance for all of their health care. See how that goes. By the way, Medicare is socialized health care.
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Message 75 of 138 (881885)
09-03-2020 11:30 AM
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09-03-2020 11:25 AM


Re: The Bill will get paid
Phat writes:
You claim that the poor will come up to meet me, but I am arguing that the money I now am scarely able to save for my retirement will get taken from me through higher taxes and that I will have to drop a notch or two in order for the poor to come up to "meet me".
Mark 10:21
And Jesus, looking at him, loved him, and said to him, You lack one thing: go, sell all that you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.

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